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2010-01-14, 03:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Frozen Berserker+ Blazing Berserker=? [3.5]
How do the two stack? You are immune to fire and ice, but take extra damage from fire and ice. Does anyone else think of this?
Blazing BerserkerLast edited by deuxhero; 2010-01-14 at 03:07 PM.
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2010-01-14, 03:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Frozen Berserker+ Blazing Berserker=? [3.5]
Well, you're immune to both, so you can't take extra damage from either. Or damage at all. Unless you come up against Cindy or some other caster with that overcoming energy immunities metamagic/feat. Then, maybe the extra damage would apply. Quite possibly, anyway.
And they're the two most common immunities anyway, so it's not like the character is gaining something esoterically rare.
I'm fairly sure they're not even mutually exclusive.
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2010-01-14, 04:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Frozen Berserker+ Blazing Berserker=? [3.5]
Yes it is far from overpowered, but the mental image of someone that did take both is very very silly.
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2010-01-14, 04:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Frozen Berserker+ Blazing Berserker=? [3.5]
That's Brabarians for you. I've always viewed them as sort of tragicomic like the Dwarf Fortress Dorfs myself.
As far as visuals go, I favor the patchwork interpretation. There's spots, shifting across the brabarian's body, that are freezing, thawing, steaming(sublimating, even), in various stages of blazing up and dying down in terms of flames, and generally making the area around them feel a bit muggy.
And whenever they get cut their wounds freeze up and then the ice-scabs catch on fire and the wounds are cauterized or something. (At least, if I'm recalling correctly either the prereq for frozen berserker or frozen berserker makes one have freezing blood such that wounding weapons don't get any special abilities against them.Last edited by Coidzor; 2010-01-14 at 04:39 PM.
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2010-01-14, 04:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Frozen Berserker+ Blazing Berserker=? [3.5]
That is a frostrager (requires frozen zerker) ability, though I would take it if I wanted to go the full way.
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2010-01-14, 05:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Frozen Berserker+ Blazing Berserker=? [3.5]
A frostburn barbarian, clearly.
But yes, you'd be immune to both (assuming you can stack the subtypes which I'm pretty sure you can), but if anything bypasses that immunity (there are numerous ways to do this, mostly meta-magic stuff) then you take the additional damage as appropriate.
By no means overpowered even if you could keep up infinite raging, its only two elemental immunities at the end of the day, easy to get around.Originally Posted by Douglas Adams
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2010-01-14, 05:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Frozen Berserker+ Blazing Berserker=? [3.5]
Infinite rage? How?
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2010-01-14, 05:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Frozen Berserker+ Blazing Berserker=? [3.5]
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2010-01-14, 07:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Frozen Berserker+ Blazing Berserker=? [3.5]
Which is bad, for the record. No sense and having to get hit to rage. Also, I've got an old barb build that focused on multirage. Give me a second to dig it up.
BOOP: Mr. Angry.Last edited by Thrice Dead Cat; 2010-01-14 at 07:10 PM.
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2010-01-14, 07:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Frozen Berserker+ Blazing Berserker=? [3.5]
There's probably plenty of easier ways, but an intelligent item that can cast Rage would be a good start, lower stat boosts, but it lasts as long as the caster concentrates, and any "while raging" abilities you have still kick in, like the Bear Warrior's "I'm a bear now"
Man this thing was full of outdated stuff.
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2010-01-14, 07:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Frozen Berserker+ Blazing Berserker=? [3.5]
Rage spell? Why not get Druid to cast 2nd level Blood Frenzy (grant additional Rage that doesn't count vs total rage #).
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2010-01-14, 07:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Frozen Berserker+ Blazing Berserker=? [3.5]
Man this thing was full of outdated stuff.
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2010-01-14, 08:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Frozen Berserker+ Blazing Berserker=? [3.5]
Get a casting of Mantle of the Fiery Spirit and Mantle of the Icy Soul and you have both the [Fire] and [Ice] subtypes. They're Instantaneous, too, so that's fun. Not cheap, but not prohibitively expensive either. It's always on, doesn't burn (or freeze) feats, and doesn't require you to be a barbarian.
I've currently got this on my Inspector Gadget-style character. It explains, fluffwise, why he can spew fire and ice all over the place at will. (DFA is a really fun class if you kill the stupid draconic flavor with extreme prejudice.)In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers
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