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    Default (3.5e) Redundant templates

    So () assuming you are the DM and you ignore the restrictions on who you can apply a template to, how would applying redundant templates would change a creature?

    I'm talking about fire elemental with the fire elemental creature template, half golem golems, half ogre ogres, half dragon dragons, fiendish fiends etc..
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    How would you ever explain half-dragon true dragons?
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    Whats wrong with half red dragon (half red dragon) red dragon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sliver View Post
    Whats wrong with half red dragon (half red dragon) red dragon?
    Being 150% red dragon is really difficult to explain...
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    Half Vampire Vampire.

    Anthropomorphic Bat Werebat.

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    other half, also orc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixRivers View Post
    Anthropomorphic Bat Werebat.
    Especially if it is a true born Werebat (for at will transformation).. Hybrid form makes so much sense...
    Last edited by Sliver; 2010-01-17 at 05:12 AM.
    A wise monk trains both mind and body, but a smart monk is actually a swordsage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishy View Post
    other half, also orc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Temotei221 View Post
    How would you ever explain half-dragon true dragons?
    Well, when a black and a red dragon fall in love...what happens? I mean dragons can mate with anything (and I mean ANYTHING).

    Half red dragon gelatinous cubes makes one annoyed, and curious. It is large so it should have wings. It has a breath weapon that comes from...somewhere. Flies at 30 too, that is scary on a G Cube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobVosh View Post
    Well, when a black and a red dragon fall in love...what happens? I mean dragons can mate with anything (and I mean ANYTHING).

    Half red dragon gelatinous cubes makes one annoyed, and curious. It is large so it should have wings. It has a breath weapon that comes from...somewhere. Flies at 30 too, that is scary on a G Cube.
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    By the rules, there is nothing stopping you from applying the half-troll template to a troll...

    While not entirely redundant, I have always been interested in contrasting combinations, such as half-fire water elemental.

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    Half Fire Elemental Half Black Dragon Troll.

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    Half-Dragon Draconic White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Kobold?

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    Doesn't a half-golem golem get a random breath weapon from pretty much nowhere?

    Half-Dragon Dragon is actually pretty rubbish, it gets a boost to stats and not too much else...

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    Quote Originally Posted by term1nally s1ck View Post
    Doesn't a half-golem golem get a random breath weapon from pretty much nowhere?

    Half-Dragon Dragon is actually pretty rubbish, it gets a boost to stats and not too much else...
    Uhm. Half-Dragon (White) Red Dragon - immunity to both Fire and Cold? Yes please! Cold breath attack? Even more awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narazil View Post
    Uhm. Half-Dragon (White) Red Dragon - immunity to both Fire and Cold? Yes please! Cold breath attack? Even more awesome.
    Then stack a bunch of other templates granting immunities until you're immune to adventurers.

    Like the Chuck Norris template, which grants--
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    I didn't think of stacking different color dragon templates

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobVosh View Post
    Well, when a black and a red dragon fall in love...what happens? I mean dragons can mate with anything (and I mean ANYTHING).

    Half red dragon gelatinous cubes makes one annoyed, and curious. It is large so it should have wings. It has a breath weapon that comes from...somewhere. Flies at 30 too, that is scary on a G Cube.
    A half red dragon black guy? Actually, that's a bad joke.
    A half red dragon black dragon or half black dragon red dragon would be the result. Basically, a slightly tougher black or red dragon with the ability to breath fire or acid once per day (depending which is the base).

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    Half lime jello Gelatinous cube?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShippoWildheart View Post
    Half lime jello Gelatinous cube?
    Weakness: piercing damage (forks) and slashing damage (spoons).

    Strengths: Tasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Temotei221 View Post
    Weakness: piercing damage (forks) and slashing damage (spoons).

    Strengths: Tasty.
    But every bit paralyzes you, unless you are already immune to paralysis. So good, yet so deadly!

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    There is a half jello template? (Imagines an Tucker's half jello kobolds, half jello trolls, half jello dragons.. Jellooooooooooooo..)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sliver View Post
    There is a half jello template? (Imagines an Tucker's half jello kobolds, half jello trolls, half jello dragons.. Jellooooooooooooo..)
    No. I just made it up because I was thinking of how redundant can you get, and a jello flavored Gelatinous cube sounded redundant enough to enter the Department Of Redundancy Department.

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    Awwww You promised me a half jello template!
    A wise monk trains both mind and body, but a smart monk is actually a swordsage.

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    Awwww You promised me a half jello template!
    Homebrew it, and PM me it!

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    You could probably whip something up.

    Type changes to Ooze, Dex and Wis go to 1, but you get +14 to Cha due to tastiness.

    Damage type depends on flavour.

    Lime is acid, raspberry is fire, blueberry is cold, lemon is lightning and so on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sliver View Post
    Awwww You promised me a half jello template!
    We should make one.

    Size and Type: The creature’s type changes to ooze. Size is unchanged. Do not recalculate base attack bonus or saves.
    Hit Dice:
    Speed:
    Armor Class:
    Attack:
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    Damage:
    Special Attacks: A half-Jello creature gains the ability to deal damage by coming into contact with other creatures or objects, based on its flavor. Lemon: electricity; strawberry/cherry/orange: fire; blue raspberry, blueberry: cold; lime: acid. The damage dealt is equal to 10 + ½ creature's HD + creature's Con modifier per full round of contact
    Special Qualities: Immunity to poison, sleep effects, paralysis, polymorph, and stunning, blind (but have the blindsight special quality), with immunity to gaze attacks, visual effects, illusions, and other attack forms that rely on sight, not subject to critical hits or flanking, tasty presence
    Abilities: Str +2, Dex -8, Con +6, Int 0, Cha +10
    Skills: Half-Jellos have a +8 racial bonus on Balance checks. Otherwise same as the base creature.
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    Challenge Rating:
    Alignment:
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    Tasty Presence (Ex): A half-Jello creature can unsettle a foe's stomach with its mere presence. The ability takes effect whenever the half-Jello is attacked or comes into contact with a creature. Creatures within a radius of 30 feet + 5 x the creature’s Cha modifier are subject to the effect if they have fewer HD than the creature. A potentially affected creature that succeeds on a Will save (DC 10 + ½ creature’s HD + creature’s Cha modifier) remains immune to that creature’s tasty presence for 24 hours. On a failure, creatures with 4 or less HD become panicked for 4d6 rounds and those with 5 or more HD become shaken for 4d6 rounds. Creatures that do not eat are not affected by tasty presence, although creatures that need not eat, but can, are affected.

    Do what you will. Then we can fill it in! Whoo!
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    It should have some aura, of despair maybe, that effects any hostile creatures... It is harder to attack the lump of tastyness, and you can't help it but feel sorry for it not liking you..
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    Why not make a Vampire Vampire? No half, take a creature, apply the template, and apply it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sliver View Post
    There is a half jello template? (Imagines an Tucker's half jello kobolds, half jello trolls, half jello dragons.. Jellooooooooooooo..)
    On another game I play, younger dragons are often referred to as "pudding scales," does that count?
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