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    Default [3.5] Are psions able to learn powers from power stones?

    I was certain they could, but now I can not find it under the SRD in either the Learning New Powers or Power Stones section.
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    Default Re: [3.5] Are psions able to learn powers from power stones?

    They can't learn them permanently (I think), but if a psion successfully makes contact with a power stone, they can manifest a power within on the next round. If you keep the power stone around, you can do this 1/day.

    http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/ps...rsOverview.htm ("Manifest an unknown power from another's powers known)

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    Default Re: [3.5] Are psions able to learn powers from power stones?

    You might consider letting a psion use a power stone to obtain some kind of discount on the XP cost of learning the power contained via independent research.

    Learning new powers as a psion is not so easy as learning new spells as a wizard - this seems to me the most reasonable baseline to work from.

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    Default Re: [3.5] Are psions able to learn powers from power stones?

    Erudites (CPsi) are the only characters that can truly learn powers from power stones. But they are slightly more limited in what they can manifest each day than a Psion (though not as much as a Wilder.)

    @ kami - though the wording is ambiguous, independent research for psions is implied to be like that of sorcerers - i.e. that doing so will still use a spell (power) known slot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimystik View Post
    @ kami - though the wording is ambiguous, independent research for psions is implied to be like that of sorcerers - i.e. that doing so will still use a spell (power) known slot.
    I don't see any such implication. What are you basing that on?

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    Default Re: [3.5] Are psions able to learn powers from power stones?

    Try comparing it to Psychic Chirurgery.

    Psychic Chirurgery is more expensive and requires coercing a 17th level manifester into helping you; on the other hand it's 10 minutes vs. weeks of complete inaction, which might not be readily available in a given campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamikasei View Post
    I don't see any such implication. What are you basing that on?
    Actually, I rescind that - independent research for Psions requires a Psicraft check while sorcerers don't, so it stands to reason that theirs would be a little stronger. Though I think that allowing Psions to circumvent their powers known limitation in this way (researching "independent powers" that are functionally identical to existing ones) has great abuse potential.

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    Default Re: [3.5] Are psions able to learn powers from power stones?

    Why? Psion use XP to learn.
    Wizards use gold (easy to acquire more).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck_II View Post
    Why? Psion use XP to learn.
    Wizards use gold (easy to acquire more).
    Right, the Psion's method is harder, therefore it should add to powers known (unlike wiz/sorc, who only require DM permission.) Sorcerers don't even need gold, just a spells known slot.

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