how can you cast light? (as in, phyiscally)

**taltamir** · 2010-01-22, 08:11 PM (ISO 8601)

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/Light.htm

Components: V, M/DF

How can you cast it? it has a material component with no somatic component... so you don't use your hands at all, but still use a component? what?

EDIT: to be more specific, how does it interact with the following:
1. Grapple
2. Armor wearing
3. being bound

**Signmaker** · 2010-01-22, 08:12 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by taltamir

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/Light.htm

Components: V, M/DF

How can you cast it? it has a material component with no somatic component... so you don't use your hands at all, but still use a component? what?

S = Squiggly fingers.

**Temotei** · 2010-01-22, 08:13 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by taltamir

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/Light.htm

Components: V, M/DF

How can you cast it? it has a material component with no somatic component... so you don't use your hands at all, but still use a component? what?

Somatic components are things like wiggling your fingers, positioning your hands in certain patterns, etc.

Raising your hand to throw a focus is something anyone can do, and it's not restricted by armor.

Bending your fingers in a precise way to create specific signals, then moving your hands in patterns...that's restricted by armor, and it's something not everyone can do.

**Pharaoh's Fist** · 2010-01-22, 08:13 PM (ISO 8601)

You created a thread to ask why Light requires a material component and no somatic component?

**taltamir** · 2010-01-22, 08:14 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Pharaoh's Fist

You created a thread to ask why Light requires a material component and no somatic component?

it is a question that must be asked :P

seriously though.. I was curious how it interacted with things like:
1. Grapple
2. Armor wearing
3. being bound

**Pharaoh's Fist** · 2010-01-22, 08:15 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by taltamir

it is a question that must be asked :P

There is no question. [/Jedi mind trick]

**Signmaker** · 2010-01-22, 08:16 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by taltamir

it is a question that must be asked :P

seriously though.. I was curious how it interacted with things like:
1. Grapple
2. Armor wearing
3. being bound

Any of those that aren't dependent on Somatic casting/Don't have their own specific casting restrictions = Fine

**DementedFellow** · 2010-01-22, 08:16 PM (ISO 8601)

I wish you could cast light on the enemy's eyeball.

**taltamir** · 2010-01-22, 08:17 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Signmaker

Any of those that aren't dependent on Somatic casting/Don't have their own specific casting restrictions = Fine

i don't comprehend your answer

**Signmaker** · 2010-01-22, 08:18 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by taltamir

i don't comprehend your answer

Light suffers no ASF. It can be cast in a grapple, provided you make the concentration check. As long as you can reach the material component and aren't gagged, it can be cast while bound.

**Foryn Gilnith** · 2010-01-22, 08:20 PM (ISO 8601)

If you are not pinned, and you are holding the material component, and you make a DC 20 Concentration check, you can cast Light in a grapple. Retrieving the component is a full-round action.

Armor does not interfere with Light.

If you can reach your component pouch while tied, somehow, and can speak firmly, then you can cast Light when bound.

**Temotei** · 2010-01-22, 08:20 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by DementedFellow

I wish you could cast light on the enemy's eyeball.

If it's not attached, you can.

**ericgrau** · 2010-01-22, 08:21 PM (ISO 8601)

You still must touch the object that you want to glow. Unlike other spellcasting, this is not a complicated gesture known as a somatic component, so you can do it in full plate or in a grapple no problem, as long as you make your concentration check and can touch the object. In a grapple you also need to spend a full round action and grapple check to draw the material component, or take eschew material components.

EDIT: Nevermind about the other eschew material components question, the material component isn't the object touched.

**Temotei** · 2010-01-22, 08:23 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by ericgrau

You still must touch the object that you want to glow. Unlike other spellcasting, this is not a complicated gesture known as a somatic component, so you can do it in full plate or in a grapple no problem, as long as you make your concentration check and can touch the object.

I think the next silly question is "what if I take eschew material components and cast light"

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Then take Silent Spell.

**Signmaker** · 2010-01-22, 08:23 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by ericgrau

I think the next silly question is "what if I take eschew material components and cast light"

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You don't need the glowy material components, but still have to touch what you want to Light. Naturally.

**dragonfan6490** · 2010-01-22, 08:55 PM (ISO 8601)

You take a match and strike it against a rough surface, thus creating light

**taltamir** · 2010-01-22, 08:57 PM (ISO 8601)

do you need to TOUCH it with your HAND, or do you need to be within touch DISTANCE (5 feet) and make a touch attack?
because I could see "touch" range as being a fixed 5 foot range... :)
or become as such when using still spell.

**Signmaker** · 2010-01-22, 09:02 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by taltamir

do you need to TOUCH it with your HAND, or do you need to be within touch DISTANCE (5 feet) and make a touch attack?
because I could see "touch" range as being a fixed 5 foot range... :)
or become as such when using still spell.

You need to touch it. It's not like it's a combat spell.

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