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    Default A random optomization question [3.5]

    I'm bored. So I present this challenge: gain access to the largest number of sizes without expending non-renewable resources by level 20. Slight Build and Powerful Build count. You should be able to achieve each size without using any consumables, without the help of an ally, and within 1 minute of being informed of what size you need to be, assuming that you start from any reasonable size (i. e. day-long buffs, natural size, continuous magic items etc.).
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    Do power point count as consumables? cause I think that a psychic warrior with Comprension and Expansion can get to ANY size in a round.
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    Default Re: A random optomization question [3.5]

    On a related note, spell slots?

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    Power points and spell slots are not counted as consumables: however, XP and GP expenditure which must be reused each time you want to achieve that size are.
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    If I creep into your house in the dead of night and strangle you while you sleep, you probably messed up your grammar.

    I'm always extremely careful to hedge myself against absolute statements.

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    Default Re: A random optomization question [3.5]

    Quote Originally Posted by DuskEclipse View Post
    Do power point count as consumables? cause I think that a psychic warrior with Comprension and Expansion can get to ANY size in a round.
    You can drop or grow up to two categories in either direction, but not beyond that.

    Metamorphosis would get you the rest of the way though.
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    Default Re: A random optomization question [3.5]

    Medium-sized CL 19+ Wu Jen. Cast Giant Size or Minute form on demand.

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    Kobolds Do It Better:
    Be a Dragonwrought Kobold Druid of sufficient age. Achieve level 15 + some spare XP. Have your last four feats Psychic Reformed into the Epic feats Diminutive, Fine, Gargantuan, and Colossal Wildshape. You can cover the entire standard size chart on demand, with renewable resources, with a one-time cost of enough XP and gold to pay for the Psychic Reformation.

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    Default Re: A random optomization question [3.5]

    There was a Kobold with Slight Build, Stoneblessed for Powerful Build, Titan Bloodline for Huge weapons, then Compression and Expansion I think? I don't remember all of it.

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    Default Re: A random optomization question [3.5]

    Shapechange.

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    Default Re: A random optomization question [3.5]

    Quote Originally Posted by FishAreWet View Post
    There was a Kobold with Slight Build, Stoneblessed for Powerful Build, Titan Bloodline for Huge weapons, then Compression and Expansion I think? I don't remember all of it.
    Stoneblessed does not grant Powerful Build. If you take the Goliath path, it grants Toughness and a bunch of Skill related things.

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    Shapechange.
    This wins, because a focus is not consumable.

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    Default Re: A random optomization question [3.5]

    Half-Minotaur Goliath is large with powerful build (so huge). Be anything 4/psychic warrior 3 with practiced manifester. Manifest Expansion for 7 pp. You are gargantuan, and with powerful build, are treated as colossal for some things. Possible at ECL 9.

    Alternatively, goliath wu jen + giant size.

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    Hmmm.... I have the sudden urge to make a Hank Pym build.

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