3.5 RAW rules question

[monotone]

Do the con bonuses to armor class from Fist of the Forest and Deepwarden stack? According to the rules compendium you cannot get a bonus from the same source twice. I do not think that this applies here, but I am looking for some clarification.

[Kosjsjach]

I'm not sure how to answer your query, but topics like this are better suited to The 3.5 Q&A thread.

[sonofzeal]

They stack. However, Deepwarden bonus doesn't bypass "Maximum Dexterity Bonus" of armor, if you choose to wear any. A Deepwarden with Con 20 in Full Plate only gets +1 Con bonus to AC.

[Boci]

They stack. However, Deepwarden bonus doesn't bypass "Maximum Dexterity Bonus" of armor, if you choose to wear any. A Deepwarden with Con 20 in Full Plate only gets +1 Con bonus to AC.

Isn't that theory based off a response from the sage (i.e. not the most reliable source)? Usually with a state change the general agreement is that limitations of former one do not apply, like shadow blade granting dex to damage on both weapons, instead of 0.5 for the offhand.

[Gorbash]

I find it hilarious that these builds always forget that point of Deepwarden is being underground and point of Fist of the Forest is being in, well, a forest. So, against all sense, you become a protector of underground forests. But you get con to AC two times!

[Boci]

I find it hilarious that these builds always forget that point of Deepwarden is being underground and point of Fist of the Forest is being in, well, a forest. So, against all sense, you become a protector of underground forests. But you get con to AC two times!

"You shall never descerate these holy mushroom farms, vile dorw!"

[FishAreWet]

I find it hilarious that these builds always forget that point of Deepwarden is being underground and point of Fist of the Forest is being in, well, a forest. So, against all sense, you become a protector of underground forests. But you get con to AC two times!

There are caves in forests.

[TheCountAlucard]

"You shall never descerate these holy mushroom farms, vile dorw!"

Oh, man, those dorw; you don't know how many times they try and desecrate those mushroom farms! (shudders)

[Curmudgeon]

They're not the same source, so they stack. AC Bonus (Ex) is the name of the FotF class feature; Stone Warden (Ex) is the Deepwarden feature. Stone Warden replaces the Dexterity bonus to AC; AC Bonus is simply that: a bonus. The two have nothing in common except their internal mechanics.

[Runestar]

I find it hilarious that these builds always forget that point of Deepwarden is being underground and point of Fist of the Forest is being in, well, a forest. So, against all sense, you become a protector of underground forests. But you get con to AC two times!

They did not forget. They merely did not accept.

[Asheram]

Oh, man, those dorw; you don't know how many times they try and desecrate those mushroom farms! (shudders)

Protected by the rasta dwarves.

Ach, mon. Them bobo be teif'n our shrooms!