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2010-02-23, 10:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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trapfinding for a psion
hey mates,
my PC is gonna get a cohort soon and i'd like it to cover for the fact that we don't have a trapfinder type in our party. so i'm looking for a couple feats that would let me build the cohort with full psion levels (its starting out at 5 and i REALLY want 3rd lvl powers) and still get spot, search as class skills and be able to find traps of over dc 20 (the cohort is a kineticist so it already gets disable device as a class skill)."He who would count the teeth of the dragon must accept a degree of risk"
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2010-02-23, 10:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: trapfinding for a psion
Thrallherd.
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2010-02-23, 10:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: trapfinding for a psion
my character is a thrallherd, for fluff reasons i can only get pure caster psion's as my thralls, so i need some way to make my psychokinesis thrall be able to cover for trapfinding.
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2010-02-23, 10:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: trapfinding for a psion
You could try Rogue 1/Ardent 4, with Practiced Manifester. It gains 3rd level spells AND trapfinding.
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2010-02-23, 10:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: trapfinding for a psion
i would go rogue, but as i said, fluff reasons (and DM fiat) require that my thralls be pure psions.
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2010-02-23, 10:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: trapfinding for a psion
I can't think of any way for a pure psion to get Trapfinding as such, but maybe Control Object/Psionic Dominate and having something or someone act as a "trapfinder" of sorts, by walking into the traps. You could push an inamiate object with Skate manifested on it around with a long pole, to set up some types of traps.
Something like that.
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2010-02-23, 10:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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If you're a Thrallherd, just have your minions scout ahead and locate all the traps the old-fashioned way; it's practically what they're there for anyway.
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2010-02-23, 10:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: trapfinding for a psion
The trouble is that he might not even have any believers unless he has high charisma, and even then he'd run out off them quite fast.
[Edit]: His thrall is going to be level 5, so I assume he's psion 5/thrallherd 1. That means he needs +3 cha modifier to get even 5 believers per day.Last edited by Greenish; 2010-02-23 at 10:52 AM.
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2010-02-23, 10:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: trapfinding for a psion
no can do on sending minions to death, i'm gonna be using them for a different purpose, they won't actually travel with the party. the campaign has a major social aspect so i'm going to be using them to infiltrate various political/business organizations for various purposes. plus i'm not evil... and i'm pretty sure my DM (and party) would object.
are there any feats that would make search and spot class skills? i might be able to convince my DM to allow a homebrew feat that gets what i want, but i'd rather use something published if possible.
edit: yeah i only have a 14 charisma, so no believers immediately anywayLast edited by alisbin; 2010-02-23 at 10:56 AM.
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2010-02-23, 10:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: trapfinding for a psion
Actually, its pretty hard not to end up with a maxed-out Leadership score, given that:
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Originally Posted by SRDLast edited by Cyclocone; 2010-02-23 at 11:02 AM.
If a tree falls in a forest, the Druid will make sure you hear about it.
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2010-02-23, 10:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-02-23, 10:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: trapfinding for a psion
what book is that in?
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2010-02-23, 11:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: trapfinding for a psion
Trapfinding itself is two feats according to WotC. Shape Soulmeld (Theft Gloves) and Open Least Chakra. You can't benefit from Gloves, but oh well.
A feat in CAdv lets you use Int instead of Dex on Disable Device (or was it the other way around?).
Getting Search as a class skill is harder, so you may have to make due with CC ranks and a couple of items to boost your check's results.
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You can't take a Psychic Rogue? Or a lurk?
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2010-02-23, 11:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: trapfinding for a psion
i originally wanted my first thrall to be a psychic rogue and the second be a psychic warrior (or maybe vice versa), but my DM isn't that comfortable with psionics so he decided that i could only make psion cohorts so he wasn't hit by too many variant rules from one player.
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2010-02-23, 11:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: trapfinding for a psion
Instead of Kineticist go with Shaper since they get Use Psionic Device as a class skill (presumably you're using the Magic-Psionics Transparency rule) and buy a Wand of Find Traps (or get the party Cleric to use it). And Shapers get a better list of powers, too.
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2010-02-23, 02:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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we're only using partial transparency, spell resistance translates to power resistance, but thats pretty much it. also, its a fairly low magic campaign, we're 4th level now (i'm planning ahead) and we have about 1k gold and 1 minor magic item each. alas, no magic marts so item dependency is out. i know, not exactly a perfect situation, i was just hoping there was some feat lurking out there that gave what i wanted.
thanks for the thoughts mates"He who would count the teeth of the dragon must accept a degree of risk"
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2010-02-23, 03:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-02-23, 03:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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as far as i know noone in the group has magic of incarnum or i'd probably use those feats. i'll double check though.
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2010-02-23, 03:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Planar Touchstone-feat [PlH] can be taken by level 6 for every character with Knowledge (The Planes) in class (acquirable if not by default, through feats such as Educated). Bind to Catalogues of Enlightement [PlH], which grants you one Domain Granted Power of your choice.
Choose Kobold Domain for Trapfinding. You could, with some sweettalk also get Search and Disable Device in class through this (by default they only add to your Cleric skills, but as you gain the Domain Power on another class, it's reasonable enough to ask them in class for that class).
Though additional feats can gain Search in class too. Keen Intellect [DR318] would also derive your Spot off Int, useful for Int-SAD.Campaign Journal: Uncovering the Lost World - A Player's Diary in Low-Magic D&D (Latest Update: 8.3.2014)
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2010-02-23, 05:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: trapfinding for a psion
How about:
- Shape Soulmeld (Theft Gloves)
- Psycarnum Infusion
- the Psionic Open Chakra power
There, now you're still spending two feats (and also a power known and 7 PP/day), but you get Trapfinding, and you can expend your Psionic Focus anytime to treat any Soulmeld as being full of Essentia for one round. So your Theft Gloves actually become (very) useful.
This combo is only really cool if you have other feats to blow on more Soulmelds, I admit. (And if the OP doesn't have access to MoI, it won't help him anyway.)
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