Warforged Incarnate/Soulborn/totemist

[Beelzebub1111]

Should this be possible? I mean, by RAW, yes it is. But Since they don't appear in the afterlife, ergo no souls, can they really use soulmelds?

[Keld Denar]

Just because you don't have a soul yourself doesn't mean you can't tap into the potential of other souls.

[Sinfire Titan]

1: Soulborn is an NPC class.

2: Warforged can be meldshapers just as readily as any other race due to having a Con score.

3: Warforged Totemist or Incarnate is an optimal combination. Natural Weaponry, Con bonus, a built-in AC bonus, racial support, and the ability to abuse Polymorph effects. Nothing wrong at all.

4: Fluff-wise, Warforged are never stated to either have or lack a soul. The fact that they can be raised only adds to the problem. However, fluff should never prevent a build from being played (actually playability and/or level of optimization is the determining factor).



If anything, the idea of a soulless, yet sentient, being like a Warforged using Incarnum is awesome fluff.

[Kobold-Bard]

Just because you don't have a soul yourself doesn't mean you can't tap into the potential of other souls.

But isn't Essentia the energy of your own soul? So they could shape Soulmelds but you couldn't enhance them.

[Optimystik]

It is unclear whether Warforged have souls. They can be raised, so I'd say yes they do, or some approximation thereof.

Where the soul energy comes from is irrelevant - they have it, they can use Incarnum, end of story.

[Sinfire Titan]

But isn't Essentia the energy of your own soul? So they could shape Soulmelds but you couldn't enhance them.

No, it is not. The only thing that relates to your own character is your chakra Binds. Essentia is free-floating soulstuff of people who have been, will be, and currently are alive. Soulmelds are concentrated Essentia.

[Gametime]

Since Incarnum is using the soul energy of everything that has souls, your own lack or possession of a soul makes not the slightest difference.

As someone said above, the idea of a soulless abomination powered by the energy of a thousand anguished souls is also really freakin' cool.

[Kobold-Bard]

No, it is not. The only thing that relates to your own character is your chakra Binds. Essentia is free-floating soulstuff of people who have been, will be, and currently are alive. Soulmelds are concentrated Essentia.

I stand sit corrected.

[Beelzebub1111]

It is unclear whether Warforged have souls. They can be raised, so I'd say yes they do, or some approximation thereof.

Where the soul energy comes from is irrelevant - they have it, they can use Incarnum, end of story.

Interesting...I will have to give this some thought...

As someone said above, the idea of a soulless abomination powered by the energy of a thousand anguished souls is also really freakin' cool.

You mean a Death Giant?

[Optimystik]

I wouldn't call them "anguished." Incarnum is just there. You don't inflict anguish on water by running it through a dam.

Necrocarnum is another story, though.

[Starbuck_II]

Every Incarnum user I make is powered by dead babies.

[Sinfire Titan]

Every Incarnum user I make is powered by dead babies.

Use puppies. More Moe, less poop.

[Optimystik]

Use puppies. More Moe, less poop.

Less poop? Have you ever owned a puppy?

[9mm]

Less poop? Have you ever owned a puppy?

*snerk*

ten characters

[Sinfire Titan]

Less poop? Have you ever owned a puppy?

Have you ever had a baby?

[Kobold-Bard]

Have you ever had a baby?

Not a whole one, had to throw the leftovers away.

Sorry

[Sinfire Titan]

Not a whole one, had to throw the leftovers away.

Sorry

[Jurassic Park]Clever girl...[/Jurassic Park]


Wimp. I make sure to savor the ribs at the very least, but I never let one go to waste like that.