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Swift Hunter tips + archery
Right now, I'm making a Swift Hunter going mostly by the first build in Dictum_Mortuum's Swift Hunter's Handbook, Scout 5/Ranger 15, and wondering if there are any tips I should keep in mind beyond what's mentioned in that build.
More generally, I'm curious about interesting archer builds, because aside from this one, I haven't really looked into archery at all. What madness has CharOp unleashed upon the world?
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I prefer TWF to be fair, but I rcognize that archeriy is a better option with swift hunter.... now for Advice check Eldariel's archery handbook (not finished AFAIK but pretty good) and get a spliting enchantment on your bow to double your shots, combine with manyshot and greater manyshot for extra fun
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Hm. Old but interesting. Most successful Archer-builds are really casters though; Archivists & Cleric in particular make for excellent Archers, but Bard/Arcane Archer/Sublime Chord/SE/AC, Wizard and company are decent as well. Other than that, Factotum Manyshot Archer works great, Soulbow is a nice Wis SAD archer, Warblade (and Eternal Blade in particular) have few great abilities to use with archery and of course, there's the classic "stamp as many Damage/To Hit Enhancing Martial Classes Together"-variant. Oh, and Rogues.
But yeah, for Skirmisher? Well, Cloistered Cleric-dip for Travel Devotion is a very viable alternative to Greater Manyshot, getting you more attacks and being slightly easier to hit with. Mystic Ranger definitely > Ranger and I personally prefer Scout 3/Ranger 17 split for eventual Hide in Plain Sight. There isn't much to say; make sure your To Hit is decent, pick up Skirmishing- and Stealth-related feats, be prepared to handle various skill-related tasks too and you'll be fine.
Sword of the Arcane Order [CoV] is absolutely incredible if you can gain it; getting access to Wizard-spells just skyrockets your capabilities and the Shooting Star-replacement levels are excellent too. That's about it, ask about something specific if you want specific advice.
EDIT: Well, since it got mentioned already, the Unfinished Archery Handbook. I'll get to it some day. I swear! There may be something you can use there right now though.
EDIT#2: Well, my edit got ninja'd. Awkward.Last edited by Eldariel; 2010-02-23 at 10:15 PM.
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Cool stuff. Thanks! I'll take a stroll through it.
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Hey, I play a swift hunter every time I head home for winter/spring/summer break. Scout 3/Ranger 10 in my case.
The most important feat I have is definitely travel devotion from Complete Champion - getting skirmish with a full attack is awesome. Originally the build was Scout 3/Cloistered Cleric 1/Ranger 9, but I took out the cleric because it didn't fit the character well and it screwed up my skills list and BAB.
I avoided the mystic ranger and other variants, except for arcane hunter (C. Mage), which gives FE: Arcane Spellcasters. There's a constant in-joke in my group that because my main favored enemies are arcane spellcasters and humans, one day I'm going to gut the party's human wizard :P
Mystic Ranger is OK, but keep in mind that it delays a lot of other nice class features that you'll need to rely on, and after Ranger 10 the spell progression goes from awesome to worse than a bard's. It's nice with Sword of the Arcane Order, Practiced Spellcaster, etc, but that's burning a lot of extra feats that you probably won't have.
Otherwise, keep in mind that a swift hunter isn't the most damaging archer build, and that archers in general do less damage than mounted combat or charging 2H-weapon builds. What it lacks in damage, however, it gains in having a high number of useful skills. In my game those skills mostly go to waste because of party dynamics (we already had a monk, a druid, and a rogue doing the scouting, nature skills, and talking), but in the right game they'll add a lot of usefulness to the character.
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I would say go with a force bow. Between ranger favored enemies overcoming normal immunities to precision damage and the force bow allowing you to overcome DR, you'll be pretty set to be useful in almost any situation.
I mean, you can handle healing, scouting, and deal some respectable damage. Sounds like a well rounded character to me!
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All the build so far have only included 1 lvl of Scout, prolly to avoid unneeded BaB-loss. However, the feat Swift Hunter requires Skirmish (+1d6 damage, +1AC) which is obtained at Scout 4.
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This is probably the most important thing to note about Swift Hunter: You are *NOT* a DPS archer. You're a skill-monkey who can also handle 2nd or 3rd line damage output fairly easily.
Now, I'd ask the DM to 'fix' the scout list by adding the Rogue list to it(that's what I did for in the campaign I DM).
Grab Able Learner if you can tolerate human, since it'll allow you to invest in UMD, UPD, and other cross-class skills without it being painful to do so. This is true regardless of the previous suggestion, since your DM likely won't let you put the rogue list on the ranger list, and you're spending a few levels there.
Quick Recconoiter is an amazing feat for you, since you'll likely be maxing spot/listen anyway.Avatar by Assassin89
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Hmmm....
Now that you mention it.... in this thread you are absolutely right.
For now my apologies for sowing confusion, I'll get back on this when I can back it up with proof. (maybe I have been reading another board before I got here)
Edit: Found the source of my confusion...
http://community.wizards.com/go/thre...rcher_Handbook
And upon closer examination it contains more faults.
Once again, sorry for adding my confusion to this thread.Last edited by Eisirt; 2010-12-15 at 09:38 PM.
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on brilliantgameologists boards, in the gish handbook there was an archer build using pathfinder Arcane Archer wich give bab 20 cl 17 at lev 20, if i recall well was duskblade 5 /AA PF 10 / eldrich knight 5
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I'd pick 1 level of either Warblade or Swordsage.
Maybe even two of Swordsage, if you're interested to have more use for your Wisdom (but then again it's not like a Ranger has to have a lot of it to do their spells).
Why? Because both Warblade and Swordsage give you Tiger Claw maneuvers. Most maneuvers are questionably useful (I.E, not at all) for archery, but some boosts and stances will be very useful. If you go Swordsage, work on getting the Assasin Stance (second level stance) for free 2d6 sneak attack damage...
If you go Warblade, which I would do in this situation, you can get Iron Heart Surge if you take the warblade level reasonably late (IRS is 3rd level maneuver, meaning that you'll need to be at least 5th level initiatior, so at least 8 levels of non-warblade and 1 of warblade will suffice) and the 1st level stance - Hunter's Scent- from Tiger Claw. It's a very easy way to get Scent, and you might find it useful.
But the real reason you take this 1 or 2 level dip (the latter only if you take the swordsage) is to get "Sudden Leap", a 1st level Tiger Claw boost. What does it do? It lets you jump as a swift action... And the DC required to take a 10 foot jump is 10 with running or 20 without - and you shouldn't have too much trouble getting a total of 20 by level 9 or so. And if you take Improved Skirmish (+2d6 damage, + 2? AC when you move at least 20 feet), you can invest in "Leap of Heavens" to always be considered running for jumps, letting you beat the 20 DC for 20 feet jump easily.
The strikes and the stance you'll get this way are not going to be useful for you, but Sudden Leap will be. You can just prepare all Sudden Leap's (4, if you take 1 level of warblade) and spend 4 rounds doing Skirmish damage on full attacks. Then take another swift action to recharge your maneuvers, and you can continue doing it for another 4 rounds after. Having 4 (5 with rapid shot, possibly more due to other feats) ranged attacks per round (when you're high enough) doing Skirmish damage is extremely awesome.
It's one of the easiest ways to get skirmish on full attacks without being cheesy or requiring a lot of resources like magic and stuff. Plus it might even fit the character - both a ranger and a scout are agile characters, and jumping doesn't seem out of place for either.
And you can always get Iron Heart Surge if you do the dip past level 8, for all it's broken goodness.
And what's better, you don't even lost any damage dies of Skirmish if you do this.Last edited by WinceRind; 2010-12-08 at 08:20 AM.
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The "default" Swift Hunter build is usually Scout 3/Ranger 17 or Scout 4/Ranger 16. The only difference is there's a gazillion and a half ranged feats you want to take at ECL 6, and your feat slots are limited... but if you go Scout 3/Ranger 2/Scout +1, you can pick up Swift Hunter as the Scout's bonus feat at ECL 6 and pick up some other feat as well.
The bonus damage for skirmish progresses much slower, but with the right build, you can actually keep pace with Sneak Attack and get up to 10d6 Skirmish damage:
Race: Human, Azurin, Strongheart Halfing (you *need* that bonus feat)
1) Ranger 1. Feat: Travel Devotion, Bonus: PB Shot, Bonus: Track
2) Ranger 2. Bonus: Rapid Shot
3) Scout 1. Feat: Precise Shot. Skirmish 1d6
4) Scout 2. Skirmish 1d6.
5) Scout 3. Skirmish 1d6 +1
6) Scout 4. Feat: Swift Hunter. Bonus: Improved Skirmish. Skirmish 2d6 +1/4d6 +3.
7) Dragon Devotee 1.
8) Dragon Devotee 2. Skirmish 3d6 +1/5d6 +3
9) Dragon Devotee 3. Feat: Knowledge Devotion. 1st level Sorcerer casting (get at least 2 divination spells)
10) Dragon Devotee 4. Skirmish 4d6 +1/6d6 +3
11) Unseen Seer 1. Skirmish 5d6 +1/7d6 +3
12) Unseen Seer 2. Feat: Manyshot. Advanced Learning: Hunter's Eye
13) Unseen Seer 3.
14) Unseen Seer 4. Skirmish 6d6 +1/8d6 +3
15) Highland Stalker 1. Feat: Improved Rapid Shot.
16) Highland Stalker 2. Skirmish 7d6 +1/9d6 +3
17) Ranger 3. Bonus: Endurance. Skirmish 7d6 +2/9d6 +4
18) Ranger 4. Feat: Greater Manyshot.
19) Ranger 5. Skirmish 8d6 +2/10d6 +4
20) Spellsword 1.
BAB: +17, 6th level Sorcerer casting.
However, your swift-action spells (Arrow Mind, Hunter's Eye, Sniper's Shot) interferes with Travel Devotion. If you need to move up acquiring Greater Manyshot, then try Ranger 2/Scout 4/Ranger +4, and finish off with Dragon Devotee 4/Unseen Seer 4/Highland Stalker 2.
An elf dipping into Cloistered Cleric 1 can pick up Knowledge Devotion, PB Shot (Elf domain), and Travel Devotion all at once. This frees up some feats and also gives you turn undead, which you can convert into more uses of the Travel Devotion. This could allow you to pick up Weapon Focus: Light Crossbow, Rapid Reload, and Crossbow Sniper (PHBII) to extend your skirmish damage out to 60'.
There's another Swift Hunter build that gets full +20 BAB, but you can't pick up Swift Hunter until ECL 9:
1) Ranger 1. Feat: Travel Devotion, Bonus: PB Shot, Bonus: Track
2) Ranger 2. Bonus: Rapid Shot
3) Sneak Attack Fighter. Feat: Precise Shot. Sneak Attack +1d6.
4) Ranger 3. Bonus: Endurance.
5) Ranger 4.
6) Highland Stalker 1. Feat: Knowledge Devotion.
7) Highland Stalker 2. Skirmish 1d6.
8) Highland Stalker 3.
9) Highalnd Stalker 4. Feat: Swift Hunter. Skirmish 2d6 +2.
10) Ranger 5. Skirmish 3d6 +2.
11) Ranger 6. Bonus: Manyshot.
12) Highland Stalker 5. Feat: Improved Rapid Shot.
13) Highland Stalker 6. Skirmish 4d6 +2.
14) Ranger 7. Skirmish 4d6 +3.
15) Ranger 8. Feat: Improved Skirmish. Skirmish 4d6 +3/6d6 +5
16) Ranger 9. Skirmish 5d6 +3/7d6 +5
17) Ranger 10.
18) Ranger 11. Feat: Greater Manyshot. Bonus: Improved Precise Shot. Skirmish 5d6 +4/7d6 +6.
19) Ranger 12.
20) Ranger 13. Skirmish 6d6 +4/8d6 +6.
This build works quite well with Hank's Energy Bow, which gives you a Power Shot effect that can convert your BAB into extra damage. No two-handed or leap-attack multipliers, though.
You can pick up a couple archery feats with magic items. Precise Shot is available as a +1 enhancement (MIC p. 40). You can get Far Shot with either Horizon Goggles (8000 GP, Complete Mage p. 133) or Helm of the Hunter (9000 GP, MIC p. 194). Binding the Sighting Gloves soulmeld to your Hands chakra also gives you the same effect.Last edited by Darrin; 2010-12-08 at 09:15 AM.
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In that case, I've managed to deceive my DM...
Well, even 1 leap is good - it means you can get a full volley with skirmish on each shot every second round if you choose to do so (round 1, sudden leap, round 2 - recharge maneuvers (1swift action and attack), round 3, sudden leap and so on)
Still sounds good to me =p
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Ranger 17 is generally taken for the yummy Hide in Plain Sight. Then again, it comes late and Stalker of Kharesh gets it much earlier. And Favored Enemy: Evil, which is just good.
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As a possible alternative to Cloistered cleric (always hated that advise for role playing reasons) perhaps try one level of Seeker of the Misty Isle prc (refluffed for your race/deity). It should be close to most ranger/swift hunter character concepts and it grants travel domain which can be switched for travel devotion.
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Here is the weapon you should get as a Swift Hunter.
Composite Longbow (STR +7) +1 (Cost: 200,895 gold)
Exit Wound (+3) (Fires through target, +4 AC for each target in front, +1d6 damage)
Splitting (+3) (Doubles the arrows, make separate attack rolls for each arrow)
Fiery (+1) (+1d6 fire damage)
Shocking (+1) (+1d6 electricity damage)
Cold (+1) (+1d6 cold damage)
I'll post more later on a build.
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Scout 3 / Ranger 17
Base Attack +19
Feats: Swift Hunter, Improved Skirmish, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Rapid Shot(Free from Ranger), Manyshot (Free from Ranger), Improved Precise Shot (Free from Ranger), Greater Manyshot, Far Shot, Weapon Focus (Longbow)
Favored Enemies: Undead, Constructs, Elementals, Oozes, Plants
If you choose these favored enemies, you can apply your skirmish damage to anything you hit.
Base Dexterity: 40 (+15)
At first level: 18
Racial Bonus: +2 (Elf)
4th, 8th, 12th, 16th, 20th bonus: +5
Inherit Bonus: +5 (Tome of Dexterity+5: 136,500gp)
Enhancement Bonus: +6 (Gloves of Dexterity +6: 36,000gp)
Moral Bonus: +2 (Elation from Vest of Elation: 120,000gp)
Sacred Bonus: +2 (Grace from boots of Grace: 120,000gp)
Base Strength: 33 (+11)
At first level: 16
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Sacred Bonus: +4 (Righteous Fury from Mantle of Righteous Fury: 136,000gp)
Weapon: Composite Longbow (STR +11) +3 (Cost: 201,195 gold)
Exit Wound (+3) (Fires through target, +4 AC for each target in front, +1d6 damage)
Splitting (+3) (Doubles the arrows, make separate attack rolls for each arrow)
Psychokinetic (+1) (+1d4 force damage, can hit incorporeal targets)
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Goggles of Sniper’s Shot (8,000gp) – Allows you to use precision based damage at any range.
Headband of Arrow Mind (8,000gp) – Allows you to threaten with a bow and you do not provoke attacks of opportunity when shooting with a bow.
Armbands of Guided Shot (8,000gp) – Your ranged attacks do not take a penalty due to distance.
Belt of Giant Strength +6 (36,000gp)
Gnomish Twistcloth+5 (25,300gp)
Move Action: Move at least 20 feet from your current location.
Standard Action: Use Manyshot to fire 4 arrows at a single target within 30ft.
Attack bonus: +30
Base Attack: +19
Dexterity: +15
Enhancement: +3
Weapon Focus: +1
Manyshot: -8
With an average roll of 40, you can him most anything at level 20. The arrows will split into a total of 8 arrows mid-flight, so you will need to make 8 attack rolls.
Each arrow that hits will do 1d8+3 (Enhancement)+11 (Strength)+1d4 (Psychokinetic)+1d6 (Exit Wound)+7d6 (Skirmish) for damage potential of 23-74.
You could do up to 184-592 damage each round. And, that’s just to that single target. Since you have Exit Wound, if there are targets standing behind the first target, you can roll to hit them as well.
Let’s not forget that you also have Favored Enemy bonuses. So you could be doing even more damage depending on what you are fighting. Also, you could add a weapon crystal and do an additional 1d6 (fire, frost, acid, electricity) damage.
Needless to say, if you play your cards right, you can very easily take out very tough opponents.
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The bizarre thing is that this thread is from 10 months ago, but my response to it then was just about identical to what I was planning on typing up anyways.
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I made this one to address a feat issue for an archer, picking up useful feats from a variety of sources. Note the cheesy option is listed for completeness; I don't actually recommend that approach.
Here's a way to get more archery-related feats in a mostly spellcasting build; it's got something for everybody.
Race: Wood Elf (+2 DEX, +2 STR, -2 CON, -2 INT; Favored Class: Ranger). Alignment: within 1 step of Chaotic Good. You'll need to join the Order of the Shooting Star (see Champions of Valor). This build requires DEX 17 by the time you get to level 6 for Dead Eye, and DEX 19 later if you pick up Improved Precise Shot.
- Cloistered Cleric 1 of Solonor Thelandira. Domains: Knowledge, War, Elf; gain Weapon Focus (longbow) and Point Blank Shot feats as granted powers. Level 1 feat: Precise Shot. Should pick up 1+ ranks in Knowledge (arcana) and 4 ranks in Knowledge (religion).
- Mystic Ranger 1 (Ranger variant in Dragon # 336, page 105). Gain wild empathy, Track feat. Should pick up 5 ranks in Survival.
- Cloistered Cleric 2. Level 3 feat: Far Shot.
- Cloistered Cleric 3.
- Mystic Ranger 2. Take Arcane Hunter ACF (Complete Mage, page 32) to get Favored Enemy: Arcanists. Gain 3 more ranks in Survival to get 8 total ranks.
- Seeker of the Misty Isle 1 (Complete Divine, page 61). Gain Travel as bonus domain; convert this to Travel Devotion (Complete Champion, page 62) feat. Level 6 feat: Dead Eye (Dragon Compendium, page 95): add DEX bonus to arrow damage within 30'.
- Mystic Ranger 3. Choose combat style: archery; this grants the Rapid Shot feat.
- Mystic Ranger 4. Gain Endurance as a bonus feat.
- Seeker of the Misty Isle 2. You'll now have BAB 6. Level 9 feat: Manyshot.
- Seeker of the Misty Isle 3.
- Seeker of the Misty Isle 4. Do the Dark Chaos Shuffle (Fiendish Codex I, pages 92 & 95) to swap Track and Endurance for
- Sword of the Arcane Order feat (Champions of Valor, page 34): cast Wizard arcane spells in Ranger spell slots; and
- Holy Warrior reserve feat (Complete Champion, page 60): add level of highest reserved War spell to weapon damage.
Weapon Proficiency: Elves receive the Martial Weapon Proficiency feats for the longsword, rapier, longbow (including composite longbow), and shortbow (including composite shortbow) as bonus feats.
At this point you qualify to enter Arcane Archer, or you can continue with Seeker of the Misty Isle for more Cleric spellcasting plus other benefits of that PrC.
- With Divine Power you'll be at BAB 11.
- You'll add (DEX mod +1) to attacks, and (with a composite longbow) (STR mod +4) to damage. (The +1 is from Weapon Focus; the +4 is from Holy Warrior.)
- Within 30' you'll add an additional +1 to attacks, and (DEX mod + 1) to damage. (The +1 is from Point Blank Shot; the DEX mod is from Dead Eye.)
- You'll have 10 useful feats (or 14 with the cheesy sauce added), without flaws. If at some point you think you've got enough skill ranks in the various Knowledges, you can convert Knowledge domain to Knowledge Devotion for bonuses to attack and damage against the corresponding creature types.
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How do you get past the restriction in Manyshot?
Only the first arrow gets precision damage... see below.
From: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#manyshot
Manyshot [General]
Prerequisites
Dex 17, Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot, base attack bonus +6
Benefit
As a standard action, you may fire two arrows at a single opponent within 30 feet. Both arrows use the same attack roll (with a -4 penalty) to determine success and deal damage normally (but see Special).
For every five points of base attack bonus you have above +6, you may add one additional arrow to this attack, to a maximum of four arrows at a base attack bonus of +16. However, each arrow after the second adds a cumulative -2 penalty on the attack roll (for a total penalty of -6 for three arrows and -8 for four).
Damage reduction and other resistances apply separately against each arrow fired.
Special: Regardless of the number of arrows you fire, you apply precision-based damage only once. If you score a critical hit, only the first arrow fired deals critical damage; all others deal regular damage.
A fighter may select Manyshot as one of his fighter bonus feats.
A 6th-level ranger who has chosen the archery combat style is treated as having Manyshot even if he does not have the prerequisites for it, but only when he is wearing light or no armor.Originally Posted by Paper
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2010-12-16, 12:46 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2010
Re: Swift Hunter tips + archery
do you get skirmish on every attack if you use it on a full attack?
what are some good ideas for enchantments to put on thrown weapons,
and how many should I shoot for?
is having splitting on every dagger I have a viable choice?
what other options are there for thrown weapon swift hunters?
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2010-12-16, 01:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jun 2009
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- Euphonistan
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Re: Swift Hunter tips + archery
1) Yes though it can be difficult to get full attacks if you have to move 10 feet per round. It takes things like travel devotion feat.
2) I do not think you can put splitting on a dagger.
3) Bows are usually better as you can use greater many shot to do 4 arrows all with skirmish every round (8 with splitting).
4) Best throwing builds usually want bloodstorm blade so you do not have to spend a mint on magical throwing weapons. Master thrower is nice as well though these would dilute your swift hunterness.Last edited by MeeposFire; 2010-12-16 at 01:10 AM.
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2010-12-16, 01:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Oct 2006
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- Cleveland, OH
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Re: Swift Hunter tips + archery
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