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Thread: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
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2010-03-10, 07:24 AM (ISO 8601)Bugbear in the Playground
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Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
Hey, I'm going to play in a gestalt gladiator arena type campaign soon and I decided I would try to make a Charisma SAD gish (more fighty than magic though)
So here's the build:
Chaotic Good Human
Wilder2/Bard10/FavoredSoul8//CobraStrikeMonk2/PaladinofFreedom4/PiousTemplar1/ArcaneDuelist2/HolyLiberator4/Swiftblade4/MysticWanderer1/WitchHunter1/Crusader1
Important Stuff: Snowflake Wardance, Divine Might, Slippers of Battle Dancing
This build adds Charisma to Saves 3x, AC 2x, Initiative 1x, Touch AC 1x, Evasion, Mettle, A little bit of both arcane and divine casting, and some manuevers
Is there any way to improve the Charisma SADness or round it out, mostly I can see there being a lack of offense on this build right nowThe accuracy of this post is questionable
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2010-03-10, 07:25 AM (ISO 8601)Ogre in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
Evil's Blessing can give Cha to saves, but that probably contradicts something in there.
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2010-03-10, 07:31 AM (ISO 8601)Ogre in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
The ghost template adds to it, but as far as I can tell your better off without the +5 LA
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2010-03-10, 07:38 AM (ISO 8601)Orc in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
Squeeze some Walker in the Waste (It's Hot Outside) 10 in there somewhere and you've got CHA to hp.
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2010-03-10, 07:42 AM (ISO 8601)Barbarian in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
Not sure if i'm correct, but why not sorcerer/fav.soul and then mystic theurge? Originally Posted by lvl 1 sharnian
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2010-03-10, 07:46 AM (ISO 8601)Titan in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
That'd be because everything on the other side past level 5 is full of PrC's. Originally Posted by pasko77
Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.
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2010-03-10, 08:13 AM (ISO 8601)Ogre in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
I never liked the 1 sided Prc only.
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2010-03-10, 05:47 PM (ISO 8601)Bugbear in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
I needed the Bard levels to fuel Snowflake Wardance anyways Originally Posted by pasko77
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2010-03-10, 06:06 PM (ISO 8601)Ettin in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
Ascetic Mage will re-key your monk's wis bonus to AC into a cha bonus. Can't tell if you get 2nd level spontaneous arcane spells though(only thing left you'd need to qualify).
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2010-03-10, 06:08 PM (ISO 8601)Bugbear in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
If you pick up Force of Personality, you can use it in place of Wisdom on many Will saves.
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2010-03-10, 06:12 PM (ISO 8601)Barbarian in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
What's going on with Favored Soul? When I look at it, all I see are fewer slots for Ruin Delver's Fortune.
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2010-03-10, 06:31 PM (ISO 8601)Firbolg in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
Needs more Marshal dip.
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2010-03-10, 08:17 PM (ISO 8601)Titan in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
There's the Stunning (Surge?) weapon enhancement (DMG II/MIC), that allows you to make a stunning attack with the DC based on CHA, and the number of uses per day is also based on CHA.
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2010-03-10, 08:26 PM (ISO 8601)Bugbear in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
Needed for both Mystic Wanderer (divine casting PrC) and Witch Hunter (magic circle against evil) and I decided to pick up a few more levels while I was progressing Swiftblade since Swiftblade is already progressing bard Originally Posted by Pluto
Forgot about that, it'll be 3x Cha to AC now and no armor doesn't matter since I'll be using Greater Luminous Armor anyways Originally Posted by Godskook
Last edited by lvl 1 sharnian; 2010-03-10 at 08:28 PM.
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2010-03-10, 11:28 PM (ISO 8601)Banned
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
Why won't Divine Bard work? Originally Posted by lvl 1 sharnian
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2010-03-11, 12:34 AM (ISO 8601)Bugbear in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
It should be noted that spontaneous casters can only use scrolls of sanctified spells. Originally Posted by lvl 1 sharnian
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2010-03-11, 12:41 AM (ISO 8601)Barbarian in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
Arcane Preparation to the rescue?
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2010-03-11, 12:44 AM (ISO 8601)Ettin in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
Probably because that's the arcane class he's qualifying for, and progressing with, the Swiftblade PrC. Originally Posted by PhoenixRivers
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My homebrew(updated 6/17):
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Prolonged Spell(Fix for Persistent spell)
Weapon Training(replaces Weapon Focus chain)
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2010-03-11, 12:46 AM (ISO 8601)Ogre in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
Try:
Sorcerer 6/Divine Bard 2/Wilder 2/Sublime Chord 10//
CobraStrikeMonk2/PaladinofFreedom4/PiousTemplar1/
ArcaneDuelist2/HolyLiberator4/Swiftblade4/MysticWanderer1/
WitchHunter1/Crusader1
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2010-03-11, 01:02 PM (ISO 8601)Orc in the Playground
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Re: Gestalt Charisma SAD build [3.5]
Edit: never mind, already present.
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