Factotum

[Geiger Counter]

What do they look like?

[Radiun]

What do they look like?

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They're a class, so... whatever race you chose to play as with whatever equipment you chose to wear.

[Geiger Counter]

Someone made an avatar request for one, a factotum is not in the dungeonscape art gallery. What would you expect someone of that class to be wearing?

[Moglorosh]

They look like Indiana Jones.

[subject42]

They look like somebody liberally sprinkled the MiC onto a wizard that mistakenly picked up a sword.

[Ernir]

Someone made an avatar request for one, a factotum is not in the dungeonscape art gallery. What would you expect someone of that class to be wearing?

Medium armor, a martial weapon, and most importantly, a billion trinkets, each of which is "just in case". Like a tool to help with every skill, and a holy symbol for every god in the setting.

[Frosty]

And books...LOTS of books...

[AmberVael]

Essentially, the Factotum is the jack of all trades type. They can cast spells, do a bit of deific magic and healing, find traps, fight, and know everything.

They rely heavily on their intelligence and skill to get through things.

Frankly, yeah- take cues from Indiana Jones. Or heck, maybe Batman (utility beltl!) But the idea is, Factotum's are well rounded, and capable of taking up every role that might be needed.

[Starbuck_II]

Essentially, the Factotum is the jack of all trades type. They can cast spells, do a bit of deific magic and healing, find traps, fight, and know everything.

They rely heavily on their intelligence and skill to get through things.

Frankly, yeah- take cues from Indiana Jones. Or heck, maybe Batman (utility beltl!) But the idea is, Factotum's are well rounded, and capable of taking up every role that might be needed.

No Bard is Jack of all trades, master of none.
Factotum is the king of all trades, master of some.

The wording matters.

[Radiun]

Belt of Hidden Pouches [AKA Bat-Belt]:

Pouch 1: Silver holy Symbol:
Pouch 2: Flint-n-Steel and Chalk
Pouch 3: Metal Tongs
Pouch 4: Small Steel Mirror and Hammer
Pouch 5: Small Magnets
Pouch 6: Garlic & Sausages
Pouch 7: Holy Water x3
Pouch 8: TangleFoot Bag
Pouch 9: Insectbane Candle x50
Pouch 10: Marbles

Hidden Pouches
Pouch 1: Folding Saw
Pouch 2: 5 Forger’s Papers
Pouch 3: Collapsible Grappling Hook
Pouch 4: Sheet of Paper x10 and ink
Pouch 5: Quall’s Feather Token(Tree)
Pouch 6: Everlasting Rations, Everfull Mug
Pouch 7: Acid x3
Pouch 8: Oil of Taggit x5
Pouch 9: Amazing Lock & Key
Pouch 10: Masterwork Manacles
Pouch 11: Bolt Cutters
Pouch 12: Rust-Monster Wand
Pouch 13: Liquid Sunlight
Pouch 14: Pulley
Pouch 15: Daern’s Instant Tent
Pouch 16: Rope of Stone
Pouch 17: Spool of Endless Rope
Pouch 18:
Pouch 19:
Pouch 20:

Backpack
Waterskin
Collapsible 10ft Pole
Hammer
Shovel
Magic Bedroll



Well, you get the idea

Miscellaneous gear and trinkets a plenty, spilling out of his pockets even.

[2xMachina]

I'm pretty sure there is a picture of a factotum in Dungeonscape.

Reading, with the other hand on a sword. Has ropes, backpack, pick, and lots of pockets

[Kushōsaku]

This is what google thinks

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[InkEyes]

Someone made an avatar request for one, a factotum is not in the dungeonscape art gallery. What would you expect someone of that class to be wearing?

Why not ask that person for what they think a Factotum looks like?

For reference though, here's the picture of the factotum from its entry in Dungeonscape:

[Starbuck_II]

I got these by googling images on Factotum:
http://theshamelist.files.wordpress....totum_ver4.jpg
http://www.impawards.com/2005/posters/factotum.jpg
http://sob.apotheon.org/img/hilevel/hp.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91472.jpg

[DragoonWraith]

Yeah, going to go with Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones is a factotum.

[InkEyes]

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This one's a wizard firing off rays from the Spell Compendium.

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This is the cover art to Complete Scoundrel. It was published before Dungeonscape, so it's probably not a factotum. I always assumed it was a bard/arcane trickster/beguiler.

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That's straight from the Magic of Eberron art gallery. It's apparently a Quori Mindhunter.

Not that any of these wouldn't work as a factotum, it's such a flexible class that it could really look like anything.

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I got these by googling images on Factotum:
http://theshamelist.files.wordpress....totum_ver4.jpg
http://www.impawards.com/2005/posters/factotum.jpg
http://sob.apotheon.org/img/hilevel/hp.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/moe_gallery/91472.jpg

Your second link is verboten.

[Slayn82]

Well, wikipedia gave me this


Personally, when i think of a Factotum, im going with The Unstoppable Higgs of Girl Genius, specially starting here and here.

[Talbot]

On a peripheral note, should Brains over Brawn apply to Grapple checks? Or does that not count as a "Strength Based Check"?

[Slayn82]

Yes, Brain over Brawl counts for grapple checks.

[Tinydwarfman]

On a peripheral note, should Brains over Brawn apply to Grapple checks? Or does that not count as a "Strength Based Check"?

I think a grapple check is practically the definition of a strength based check, but what about attack rolls? When they have weapon finesse?

[2xMachina]

I don't think so. That would be very powerful...

Int to Damage. Int to Att roll.

[Slayn82]

Thats covered by cunning insight, and requires de use of inspiration points

[Gametime]

Yes, Brain over Brawl counts for grapple checks.

No, it doesn't. Brains over Brawn applies to Strength- and Dexterity-based skill checks, and Strength and Dexterity checks.

Sometimes a character tries to do something to which no specific skill really applies. In these cases, you make an ability check. An ability check is a roll of 1d20 plus the appropriate ability modifier. Essentially, you’re making an untrained skill check.

A grapple check (and an attack roll, and so on) is not an ability check; you roll 1d20 plus the appropriate ability modifier plus your base attack bonus. Rolling for initiative, or making a trip attempt, are ability checks, and are affected accordingly.

[Slayn82]

True that, my mistake.

[Talbot]

No, it doesn't. Brains over Brawn applies to Strength- and Dexterity-based skill checks, and Strength and Dexterity checks.



A grapple check (and an attack roll, and so on) is not an ability check; you roll 1d20 plus the appropriate ability modifier plus your base attack bonus. Rolling for initiative, or making a trip attempt, are ability checks, and are affected accordingly.

Hmm... in the SRD, though, don't you think the word "skill" is meant to refer to skills (as in, skills you use skillpoints in)? Grappling, insofar as the D&D definition of skills go, is not a skill, and therefore (by the definition you quoted) would be an ability check. Attack rolls and such explicitly are rolls, not checks, so they're a different matter entirely.

[Optimator]

A rogue avatar will look a lot like a Factotum avatar.

[Gametime]

Hmm... in the SRD, though, don't you think the word "skill" is meant to refer to skills (as in, skills you use skillpoints in)? Grappling, insofar as the D&D definition of skills go, is not a skill, and therefore (by the definition you quoted) would be an ability check. Attack rolls and such explicitly are rolls, not checks, so they're a different matter entirely.

Just because something isn't a skill doesn't make it an ability check. Grappling is a modified ability check; you aren't just adding your ability (plus other relevant modifiers), you're adding your ability plus your base attack bonus (plus other relevant modifiers).

For that matter, the SRD compares grappling to attack rolls rather than skill or ability checks.

A grapple check is like a melee attack roll.

[Dusk Eclipse]

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This is the cover art to Complete Scoundrel. It was published before Dungeonscape, so it's probably not a factotum. I always assumed it was a bard/arcane trickster/beguiler.

Isn't that Gimble the gnome bard fromth PHB?

[Talbot]

Just because something isn't a skill doesn't make it an ability check. Grappling is a modified ability check; you aren't just adding your ability (plus other relevant modifiers), you're adding your ability plus your base attack bonus (plus other relevant modifiers).

Dude, you explicitly quoted a passage from the SRD that says exactly that when it isn't a skill check, it's an ability check:

Originally Posted by SRD
Sometimes a character tries to do something to which no specific skill really applies. In these cases, you make an ability check.

[Gametime]

Dude, you explicitly quoted a passage from the SRD that says exactly that when it isn't a skill check, it's an ability check:

That passage is in reference to skills. Sometimes you do something like a skill that isn't a skill, and ability checks are how you deal with that.

Grappling isn't like a skill, and has it's own rules governing what you do. Ability checks are not involved. For that matter, as I noted, the SRD compares grappling to attacking, which is also not a skill and not an ability check.

D&D isn't divided into SKILLS and NOT SKILLS, even if my out-of-context one-liners make it seem that way.

The Rules Compendium even explicitly calls rolling for initiative a dexterity check, because all you do is roll 1d20 and add dexterity. It calls grappling "like an attack roll," because things other than ability scores are involved.