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Thread: Intimidating Strike
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2010-03-15, 07:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Intimidating Strike
Intimidating Strike requires a Standard Attack Action and works a little like Power Attack. Except that you subtract "A a number equal to or less than your base attack bonus" and you if you hit you get a free Intimidate check to cause Shaken based on the number you subtracted.
The "a number" bit has me thinking. Realistically, is it possible to subtract 0 and get a free Intimidate Check on a Standard Attack Action?
Theoretically, subtracting an integer (say, -5) could give a +5 bonus to attack and let you intimidate at -5.
So, is it possible to subtract 0 to get the bonus for Intimidating Strike?
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2010-03-15, 07:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
No. You're supposed to subtract a nonzero natural number. Not pi, not negative fifty, not i squared plus c.
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2010-03-15, 07:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
I am pretty sure that you can subtract 0 and still use Intimidating Strike. The difference between that and Power Attack is that in order for Power Attack to do anything you have to subtract a number from attack to add to damage or nothing really happens. For Intimidating strike it just gives you an intimidate check that is boosted by the number you subtract, it doesn't have to be boosted though, the bonus is just equal to what you subtract.
Last edited by JasonP; 2010-03-15 at 07:26 PM.
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2010-03-15, 07:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
SpoilerOriginally Posted by JaronKOriginally Posted by TyndmyrOriginally Posted by Zaq
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2010-03-15, 07:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
I know that you are not supposed to be able to subtract -50 to get a huge plus; I mostly threw that in for some RAWtarded laughs.
My question about subtracting 0 is a real question though. What do y'all think?
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2010-03-15, 08:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
I always assumed you could subtract 0.
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2010-03-15, 08:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
I say aye. 0 is a real number as far as I am concerned.
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2010-03-15, 08:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
The game views zero as a positive number (as far as I can tell, all instances of it are +0) so I don't see why not. I wouldn't allow it, but does subtracting 1 from your attack roll really hurt you that much?
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2010-03-15, 08:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
Where is this feat, and what are its prerequisites? It would go well with the Desert Half-Orc Hexblade / Avenging Executioner / Ghost-Faced Killer build I always come back to. Otyugh Hole provides Menacing Mien for +4 Intimidate and the roleplaying requirement for Avenging Executioner!
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2010-03-15, 08:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
IT'S A TRAP! A Standard Action for 1 attack is a huge ripoff, especially when there are a dozen other Fear effects that work as an Attack Action, Swift Action, or Move Action. I would avoid it.
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2010-03-15, 08:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
Prior to getting iterative attacks, it is no different from a normal attack (just that you cannot use it on a charge).
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2010-03-15, 09:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
It's also not bad if you move then attack.
My 2 cents: no, you can't subtract 0, it would have to be 1 or greater, same as Power Attack or Combat Expertise. That's my gut though, not RAW.
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2010-03-15, 09:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
And how is a martial character suppose to use those fear effects, a shaken enemy takes penalties to hit you.
And while intimidating strike can't worsen a fear effect beyond shaken. Something else applied after intimidating strike could enhance it beyond shaken.
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2010-03-15, 10:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
My 2 cents: no, you can't subtract 0, it would have to be 1 or greater, same as Power Attack or Combat Expertise. That's my gut though, not RAW.
Intimidating strike is a entirely different ballgame though.
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2010-03-15, 11:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
It's found in PH2.
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2010-03-16, 08:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Intimidating Strike
Last edited by Thurbane; 2010-03-16 at 08:59 PM.
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