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Thread: (4E) ways to maximise stealth
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2010-03-16, 12:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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(4E) ways to maximise stealth
I'm trying to make the stealthiest possible character, so I've got a drow rogue/assassin with the Verdant Stalker PP. Apart from Skill Focus (Stealth) and Untracable what other ways are there of increasing the stealth skill?
Last edited by Goonthegoof; 2010-03-16 at 12:20 AM.
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2010-03-16, 12:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: (4E) ways to maximise stealth
There's a bunch of items. Boots and a cloak in the PHB1 I'm fairly sure.
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2010-03-16, 12:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: (4E) ways to maximise stealth
Ya, I've found some of those, but I've found there's always an obscure feat or something that I don't know about in cases like these. I've found all the items I could possibly want (+12 bonus and roll twice) and I'm sure there's a feat (like stealthy from 3.5) that I'm missing.
Last edited by Goonthegoof; 2010-03-16 at 01:03 AM.
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2010-03-16, 01:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: (4E) ways to maximise stealth
Lets see here.... Assuming starting dex 18, and always increased... 18+6 (Levels) + 2 (Tiers) = 26 score.
1/2 Level: +15 (Assume level 30)
Drow: +2 Racial
Background: +2
Training: +5
Ability Score: +8
Demigod: +1 (From ability score up)
Shadowblade PP (Gloomshard use): +5 Untyped
Midnight Stalker [Tribal], With Allies: +2 Feat, +1 per ally with feat, up to +5
Silent Shadows [Guild], With allies: +2 Feat (Doesn't stack with Skill focus), Free Reroll at up to +5 additional, take best
Untraceable: +5 Against enemies you are invisible against.
Flashbang Powder: consumable gives +4 bonus to stealth.
Assassin's Cloak: Roll twice for checks
Shadowflow Armor +6: +6 untyped bonusActually an item bonus
Boots of Stealth: +6 item bonus
Ghost Walk Ritual (PREVENTS ATTACKING): +5 bonus
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+5953 Roll twice, with reroll at +5, And +5 vs invisible, and +5 if you don't mind not attacking. Without consumables, +5549.
So, at max, this build could be rolling at +7468. Not too shabby.
Also, make sure you have Sehanine's Mark of the Dark Moon.
Edit: Do note that some of the highest perception scores (Such as Bahamut) are only around +32. So once you have around +50, you are never being found.Last edited by Gralamin; 2010-03-16 at 01:57 AM.
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2010-03-16, 01:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: (4E) ways to maximise stealth
Thanks very much Gralamin, although there are no backgrounds and the character would be alone that rules out a couple of your ways, I hadn't known of the flashbang powder and that'll come in very useful. Your item setup is close to identical to the ones I found, I went for shadowflow armour, a piwafwi and a trickster's mask
Also, I was considering the shoulderbow and the wording seems a little unclear, as it says it can be fired as a standard action. Does this mean it is basically a complete replacement for a main hand weapon?
If so, a heavy shield main hand+hand crossbow offhand with a shoulderbow used for the usual attacks (and two fisted shooter/ruthless hunter ensuring free attacks and extra damage) would be epic.Last edited by Goonthegoof; 2010-03-16 at 01:44 AM.
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2010-03-16, 01:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: (4E) ways to maximise stealth
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2010-03-16, 01:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: (4E) ways to maximise stealth
1) Shoulderbow technically no longer exists, as its part of the old Warforged component rules, not the newer ones in EPG.
2) You'd have to be a warforged or (Possibly) Revenant to use a shoulder bow, no way around it (Special: Only a warforged character can use this weapon. It is always a component weapon.)
3) That is about correct.
Well, if you really want +75...Last edited by Gralamin; 2010-03-16 at 01:49 AM.
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2010-03-16, 01:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: (4E) ways to maximise stealth
The character in question did start with 20
I'm currently 15 from level, 10 from ability, 5 from training, 3 from focus, 2 from race, 6 untyped from item and 6 item from item.
The DDI character builder lists it as an option, not sure what to do here
There is a way around it, I call it Ring of the WarforgedLast edited by Goonthegoof; 2010-03-16 at 01:52 AM.
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2010-03-16, 01:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: (4E) ways to maximise stealth
No background bonus? There might be a background that can get you a +3 if you really search. If not you could at least get a +2.
EDIT: Stealth can only get +2 from a background bonus. The skills that can get +3 are Endurance, History, Intimidate, Religion, or Streetwise.Last edited by Thajocoth; 2010-03-16 at 02:03 AM.
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2010-03-16, 01:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: (4E) ways to maximise stealth
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2010-03-16, 02:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: (4E) ways to maximise stealth
No way in hell am I renewing my DDI subscription, the character builder is filled with bugs
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