OOTS #709 - The Discussion Thread

[John Cribati]

Today marks the first time that this comic has made me cry tears of non-laughter. Those final two panels were simply beautiful.

[thubby]

I'm guessing redcloak is having xykon refresh the cloister to cover the goblin units moving in and out of the city.

or they may not know the exact duration, if they guessed days then every few weeks (1d/lvl*20something) is about right

and this was one of the sweetest comics to date ^,^

[Dr Bwaa]

Adorable strip!

Plus, the recent rate of comic-posting is absolutely fantastic. Many thumbs up!

[doodthedud]

Is O-Chul sleeping through the rain Morally Justified?

What? one of the good guys doing what they should?!?!?

NONSENSE! Clearly this strip is showing the oppression rain has to face! Did we ever think that the good guys might actually be the bad guys and all the villains like evil rainstorms holding you back are the ones that have to suffer?!?!?

Maybe we shouldn't assume rain hitting us is a bad thinG! It's just misunderstood! It doesn't want to spoil our day! It just wants to be left alone!

[Draconi Redfir]

three updates in under two weeks (i think). may many great things come your way Rich ^^

[Degnared]

The real moral outrage is O-Chul's rain dependency keeping Lien from getting any rest.

[Covenantwgw]

ok so no scrying...which we knew. Was this just a segue comic?

[thubby]

ok so no scrying...which we knew. Was this just a segue comic?

does everything have to advance the plot?

[amanojaku]

Wow, I never liked tsukiko, but now I kind of empathize with her a little.

Her view on paladins is exactly how I see most forum mods.

[Katana_Geldar]

Yes!

And now I can see a segue into Lien and O-Chul's journey. It must be low tide where they are.

[doodthedud]

Wow, I never liked tsukiko, but now I kind of empathize with her a little.

Her view on paladins is exactly how I see most forum mods.

If you mean the ones that force you to go to an overinflated discussion thread and lock a thread about a specific issue, I'd have to agree there....

[Selene]

Oh, those were images I did not need in my head. Also, Tsukiko is annoying as hells. But I like the update anyway. Did he actually send O-Chul more rain?

[Herald Alberich]

Yes!

And now I can see a segue into Lien and O-Chul's journey. It must be low tide where they are.

I hope it's high tide, or they're not going to be napping much longer. And Lien won't be able to summon Razor until ... I dunno, what does "once per day" mean here? Midnight or morning?

[doodthedud]

I hope it's high tide, or they're not going to be napping much longer. And Lien won't be able to summon Razor until ... I dunno, what does "once per day" mean here? Midnight or morning?

The tide cannot harm O-Chul, it dare not rise!!

[zimmerwald1915]

How many times does this make that MitD has tried to psycho/sexu-analyze Xykon? What does it say about MitD that he keeps trying?

[Sahura1337]

ok so no scrying...which we knew. Was this just a segue comic?

Well it seemed to me like it might've shown that MitD has some sort of ridiculous powers. When he was passionate about something, poof! O-Chul vanished. When he hoped his closest and dearest friend had rain to help him sleep? It rained.

I don't follow this comic as closely as others so some one's probably going to correct me in a manner which invalidates my entire point, but that's how -I- took this comic.

[Shale]

It's certainly hinting in that direction. If we shift focus to O-Chul and Lien for a while, then the last panel is just a scene change. If we don't? Then the only purpose it serves is to show us that yes, it really was raining when the MitD said that.

[Mastikator]

The monster in the dark has to have some seriously epic magic capabilities if he can subconsciously cast epic scrying and control weather on O-Chul's behalf.

[Vulkan]

O-Chul is awesome

[thubby]

The monster in the dark has to have some seriously epic magic capabilities if he can subconsciously cast epic scrying and control weather on O-Chul's behalf.

unless the effect is just targeted off of o'chul, without the need to know where he is.

[Mastikator]

Huh? How does that work?

[silvadel]

You know -- Tsuikiko is definitely PERFECT for understanding the ritual as a whole being a mystic theurge. She might even be able to figure out things that the dark one might be keeping from redcloak about the whole thing. She definitely would be able to figure out that Xykon is being duped.

It is a shame about the MITD with Ochul -- I wonder if MiTD is making it rain more for him whether consciously or unconsciously.

[doodthedud]

Huh? How does that work?

I'd go ahead and say it's a safe bet it DOESN'T.

[Celisasu]

Besides that she needed the MitD's help just to figure that much out, and obviously Xykon had no luck or he wouldn't be asking her. It's also possible that Tsukiko isn't powerful enough for the divine half (maybe it requires 9th level spells or something and Redcloak is 17th level+). Still, the fact that Xykon is looking into it means he doesn't trust Redcloak anymore. The founding of Gobotopia may have caused Redcloak to grow a pair, especially since it's starting to look like his goal could actually be realized and he never really intended to keep his bargain with Xykon (I imagine he wasn't originally planning to screw Xykon too bad, since he was a great help, but after what Xykon did to Redcloak's family...).

Well to a certain degree Xykon is right not to trust Redcloak. After all, Redcloak did lie to Xykon about what the ritual does. It does indeed put the Snarl under someone's control, but that someone isn't Xykon and Redcloak, it'll put it under the Dark One's control. Redcloak was originally hoping that after Xykon found out(after the spell was cast) that he could bribe him with some high ranking position in Gobotopia. Of course at the time Xykon was still alive so who knows how Redcloak's plans have changed since.

[Maximum Zersk]

Wow, I never liked tsukiko, but now I kind of empathize with her a little.

Her view on paladins is exactly how I see most forum mods.

Wow, which forums do you go to?

[Agi Hammerthief]

sweet,

the roaches talk again!!!

MitD idn't swollow Tsuikikos paladin rant, the raised eybrow of Monster San is a nice touch.

[Herald Alberich]

I'm guessing redcloak is having xykon refresh the cloister to cover the goblin units moving in and out of the city.

I like this idea, assuming Reddy can convince Xykon to flex his Epic muscles for a few hobgoblin immigrants. Perhaps Xykon just goes along with it to keep in practice, like others have said.

or they may not know the exact duration, if they guessed days then every few weeks (1d/lvl*20something) is about right

This doesn't make sense, though. If Tsukiko knows the duration is months, so does Xykon.

[Warren Dew]

Awwww. MiTD is so heartwarming. And Tsukiko is a bitch.

How so? The monster wanted her to try to scry on O-Chul, and she had already done it. Sounds to me like she did her best.

I imagine he wasn't originally planning to screw Xykon too bad, since he was a great help

Well, he originally planned to shaft the hobgoblins, despite their being a great help, so I question whether he was planning to be any more nice to Xykon.

[RMS Oceanic]

D'aww.

Two suspicions. First, the return to MitD is the bookend for this visit to Team Evil, and we'll most likely return to the Order next strip, or as an outside possibility the Linear Guild.

Second suspicion, if Tsukiko can reverse engineer the Divine part of the ritual, Redcloak is in trouble. Either she figures out what it does, or she actually manages to alter it so it works as Redcloak advertised it.

[whitelaughter]

Once Tsukiko manages to understand the Gate ritual, Xykon will no longer need Redcloak. Gobbotopia could very well become Wightotopia very soon.

Correction - once Tsukiko understands the ritual, Tsukiko will no longer need either Xykon or Redcloak.(She'll probably keep Xykon as a bed toy, of course).