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    NecromancerGuy

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    Default Stay Warforged, add Int

    There have been multiple threads recently about how to take Warforged, Incarnate Construct them, and combine size bonii with Primordial Giant to get +4 to Int. This would be perfect for my character, only...I'd rather like it to stay a warforged. Is there any way to apply the template or gain an equivalent without ending up as a flesh and blood Giant, retaining the original living construct subtype? Is there a way to get that subtype back?

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    OldWizardGuy

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    Default Re: Stay Warforged, add Int

    Sandstorm should have a template to turn a creature back into a sentient construct, sans Con, but it comes with +2 LA.

    Other than that, you could take levels in Renegade Master Maker to "reforge" yourself.

    EDIT: So, game plan: be a Primordial Phrenic (or something else worth a total of +2 LA that boosts Int and doesn't hurt con) Incarnate Construct'd Warforged, whom was enlarged by Expansion at the time Incarnate Construct finished. Then either tack on Dustform from Sandstorm or set out to reforge yourself via Renegade Master Maker. ???? PROFIT!!!
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    Default Re: Stay Warforged, add Int

    Quote Originally Posted by Trekkin View Post
    There have been multiple threads recently about how to take Warforged, Incarnate Construct them, and combine size bonii with Primordial Giant to get +4 to Int. This would be perfect for my character, only...I'd rather like it to stay a warforged. Is there any way to apply the template or gain an equivalent without ending up as a flesh and blood Giant, retaining the original living construct subtype? Is there a way to get that subtype back?
    Green Star Adept?

    ...what, you didn't say it had to not suck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurbane View Post
    Green Star Adept?
    GSAs aren't actually Living Constructs - just Constructs.

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    Default Re: Stay Warforged, add Int

    Unfortunately, no.

    Although allowing incarnate construct to hit green star adepts does make the class suck a lot less.

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    Default Re: Stay Warforged, add Int

    Quote Originally Posted by Tytalus View Post
    GSAs aren't actually Living Constructs - just Constructs.
    I think they were the prototype for the Living Construct idea though. Humanoid mind in a robot body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tytalus View Post
    GSAs aren't actually Living Constructs - just Constructs.
    Yeah, I misread his post, I thought he just wanted the Construct type...

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    Default Re: Stay Warforged, add Int

    My apologies for too much specificity. An originally warforged full construct would be fine, as long as Int is somehow bumped...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trekkin View Post
    My apologies for too much specificity. An originally warforged full construct would be fine, as long as Int is somehow bumped...
    Probably the best way around that would be as I described below. However, to go Renegade Master Maker would require a reincarnate or two type effect to get the Humanoid creature type to qualify. Other than that, you're eating +2 LA or more from another template, least I'm forgetting something else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrice Dead Cat View Post
    Sandstorm should have a template to turn a creature back into a sentient construct, sans Con, but it comes with +2 LA.

    Other than that, you could take levels in Renegade Master Maker to "reforge" yourself.

    EDIT: So, game plan: be a Primordial Phrenic (or something else worth a total of +2 LA that boosts Int and doesn't hurt con) Incarnate Construct'd Warforged, whom was enlarged by Expansion at the time Incarnate Construct finished. Then either tack on Dustform from Sandstorm or set out to reforge yourself via Renegade Master Maker. ???? PROFIT!!!
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    "See these cookies? Note how while good they taste sort of bland. Now try these, they're the same cookies but with chocolate chips added. Notice how with the second batch we expended slightly more ingredients but dramatically enhanced the flavor? That's metamagic."
    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Roc View Post
    Seriously, can we kill this misconception now? A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He shops for precisely what he means to.


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