A (Quite Horrific) New Use of the Fabricate Spell

[Lycanthromancer]

Fabricate.
Psionic fabricate.

Now, a corpse is technically an object, what with no Wis or Cha scores, and as such, dead bodies are valid targets for fabricate and the psionic version thereof.

It certainly makes processing food animals easier, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who can come up with rather disturbing ways to use this ability.

Are you stranded on an island with no trees to build a boat, but plenty of useless kobolds? Only for as long as those lizards can run.

Did those pesky twins you fireballed annoy you back when they were alive, and you want to get back at them before you're contractually obligated to raise them from the dead? You could make the phrase 'joined at the hip' more than just a saying.

Were you wanting a new set of robes, but phase spider silk just isn't exotic enough for you, while across the street the orphanage just got in a new shipment of baby half-elves?

I'm sure you can fill in some blanks here.

[Eurus]

Aren't you also counted as an object if you're ability damaged down to 0 int/wis/cha?

[Claudius Maximus]

Aren't you also counted as an object if you're ability damaged down to 0 int/wis/cha?

No. For ability scores, there's a difference between 0 and -. You need - wisdom and charisma to count as an object.

[Last Laugh]

Aren't you also counted as an object if you're ability damaged down to 0 int/wis/cha?

If this is true I can have much fun...
Edit: and zombies have 1 charisma :pouts:

[jiriku]

Well, you could start with the corpse, shape it with fabricate, then animate it. Bonsai zombies!

[Lycanthromancer]

Whaddaya say? Better than grafts?

[TripperdeCleric]

First off you are a sick person....but so am I.

Im going to look more indepth into this and see if I can make a grown man cry.

[Eurus]

No. For ability scores, there's a difference between 0 and -. You need - wisdom and charisma to count as an object.

Oops. Still horrifying, then, but slightly less so.

[The Shadowmind]

Polymorph Any Object into an object, then Fabricate.
I think it works by RAW.

[Private-Prinny]

I wonder if I can use this to get my party's BSF to go up a size category...

Were you wanting a new set of robes, but phase spider silk just isn't exotic enough for you, while across the street the orphanage just got in a new shipment of baby half-elves?

^That's one is so evil, and yet so funny at the same time.

[UglyPanda]

Wait, you haven't used your enemies' corpses as raw materials before?

I'm not trying to be funny here; I've tried to make weapons out of my enemies' rib cages.

[Endarire]

Does this mean we can mix & match body parts from corpses to make abominations and other awkward 'species' with animate dead?

[Ravingdork]

If corpses are considered objects, that means they are immune to conjuration (healing) effects, right?

Doesn't that then mean that they cannot be raised, resurrected, or otherwise brought back to life?

[Lord Vukodlak]

Polymorph Any Object into an object, then Fabricate.
I think it works by RAW.

Until the polymorph wears off, I suppose it be funny when someone's wool shirt turns back into a wolverine.

[sofawall]

Now, a corpse is technically an object, what with no Wis or Cha scores

I was about to ask if that was really true, as I've never seen anything (to my memory) calling a dead body an object, or saying you lose stats when you die, but then I realized there are no rules for actually being dead.

[mucat]

but then I realized there are no rules for actually being dead.

Well, sure. It's one of those skills that everyone manages when the time comes. With no prior training!

[Lycanthromancer]

For reference, I'm playing a Lawful Evil blue shaper/constructor (fluff-wise; real race is synad), with psionic fabricate that was tormented and experimented upon (and driven insane) by illithids.

So, y'know, this is gonna be a handy-dandy primer, really.

[Coidzor]

Does this mean we can mix & match body parts from corpses to make abominations and other awkward 'species' with animate dead?

The Truth Behind Owl Bears!

[Lycanthromancer]

Flesh to stone could have some intriguing implications as well.

Also, metamorphosis...

[Private-Prinny]

Does this mean we can mix & match body parts from corpses to make abominations and other awkward 'species' with animate dead?

This comes to mind.

[Angry Bob]

How about flesh to stone, stone shape, and then stone to flesh? Seems like it would work the same sort of way, only you might have even more options.

Flesh to Stone on the party fighter.

Stone Shape, or Fabricate, or whatever, attach about eight new arms where there weren't any before.

Flesh to Stone, see what happens.

[Dr Bwaa]

The Truth Behind Owl Bears!

Of course! We finally know!

[Lycanthromancer]

Just two words: MEAT TREES.

Also, combined with gentle repose, you could open a gallery.

But is it ART?!

[Abd al-Azrad]

Wait, you haven't used your enemies' corpses as raw materials before?

I'm not trying to be funny here; I've tried to make weapons out of my enemies' rib cages.

Dude, haven't you used your enemies as raw materials before? The party barbarian clubbing the enemy mage to death with his own familiar? Because that is class.

I will admit the part that makes this idea truly wonderful/evil is that the material stays the same. "You convert material of one sort into a product that is of the same material." Gentle Repose makes this doable on a semi-permanent basis with upkeep, but... well, who's ever seen this place before?

[Lycanthromancer]

Dude, haven't you used your enemies as raw materials before? The party barbarian clubbing the enemy mage to death with his own familiar? Because that is class.

I will admit the part that makes this idea truly wonderful/evil is that the material stays the same. "You convert material of one sort into a product that is of the same material." Gentle Repose makes this doable on a semi-permanent basis with upkeep, but... well, who's ever seen this place before?

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[Abd al-Azrad]

bwnd

I have no words for how fantastic a pun that was. Well done, Lycan. Well done.

[Irreverent Fool]

No. For ability scores, there's a difference between 0 and -. You need - wisdom and charisma to count as an object.

Don't you mean — ?

On the subject of objects and conjuration (healing) spells, does a polymorphed corpse still count as a dead creature? What happens when that boat you turned Billy the Kobold into has raise dead cast on it? Can we make liveships?

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[TheYoungKing]

Just two words: MEAT TREES.

Also, combined with gentle repose, you could open a gallery.

But is it ART?!

And I just found something awesome for my necromantic city....

[Vizzerdrix]

Soylent Green is made of PEEEOPLE!

As is all your teams gear

[Taelas]

Corpses are not objects. They do not lose their mental ability scores.