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Thread: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
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2010-03-31, 01:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Masterwork Tool for UMD?
I have a question.
What would a Masterwork Tool be for UMD?
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2010-03-31, 01:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
Dice, because you need to be lucky?
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2010-03-31, 01:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
A manual on the basic functions of the more common varieties of magic item. How to properly aim a wand, the state of mind needed to cast from a divine scroll as opposed to arcane, et cetera. You'd probably need to study it in your downtime if you want to benefit from it on the field, when you don't have time to flip through and read instructions.
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2010-03-31, 01:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
A magic 8-ball with random yet common command words in various languages.
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2010-03-31, 01:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
A book entitled "How to Win Friends and Influence Magic Items".
I was never able to wrap my brain around the concept that a particularly charismatic rogue could figure out how to use a magical item or scroll that a dedicated Wizard (when casting divine stuff) or Cleric (when casting arcane stuff) was incapable of using or how said rogue could trick a magic item, that will not work for certain races/genders/classes/alignments, into working for them.
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2010-03-31, 01:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-31, 01:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
List of common passwords - like this.
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2010-03-31, 01:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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- The great state of denial
Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
No, there shouldn't be.
Me: I'd get the paladin to help, but we might end up with a kid that believes in fairy tales.
DM: aye, and it's not like she's been saved by a mysterious little girl and a band of real live puppets from a bad man and worse step-sister to go live with the faries in the happy land.
Me: Yeah, a knight in shining armour might just bring her over the edge.
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2010-03-31, 01:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-31, 01:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-31, 01:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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- The great state of denial
Me: I'd get the paladin to help, but we might end up with a kid that believes in fairy tales.
DM: aye, and it's not like she's been saved by a mysterious little girl and a band of real live puppets from a bad man and worse step-sister to go live with the faries in the happy land.
Me: Yeah, a knight in shining armour might just bring her over the edge.
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2010-03-31, 01:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
I heartily reccomend Ulysses Malfoy Dionysus seminal work,
A Novices Treatise on the Activation and Use of Magic Items Both Arcane and Divine For the Mad and Deficient in the Mental Sphere
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Instruction and Useful Knowledge for They Not Trained in The Arts Mystic and Other Common FolkLast edited by Ravens_cry; 2010-03-31 at 01:37 PM.
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2010-03-31, 01:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-31, 01:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
Me: I'd get the paladin to help, but we might end up with a kid that believes in fairy tales.
DM: aye, and it's not like she's been saved by a mysterious little girl and a band of real live puppets from a bad man and worse step-sister to go live with the faries in the happy land.
Me: Yeah, a knight in shining armour might just bring her over the edge.
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2010-03-31, 01:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
Tool, Masterwork
This well-made item is the perfect tool for the job. It grants a +2 circumstance bonus on a related skill check (if any). Bonuses provided by multiple masterwork items used toward the same skill check do not stack.
How much of a difference does a +2 bonus make by the mid-levels, when UMD becomes a veritable weapon? Not much. Where is the point in denying them this at those levels? There isn't one.Last edited by Sinfire Titan; 2010-03-31 at 01:36 PM.
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2010-03-31, 01:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
Did you try saying please? I'd give a +2 to UMD for that
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2010-03-31, 01:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
Aromatherapy wand grip
Magnetic shoe insoles
Feng Shui-compliant variational flux hairbands
Command word flash cards
Glasses with specially-tinted lenses that make it easier to see faint glimmers of magical energy
A very small thneed.
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2010-03-31, 01:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
Me: I'd get the paladin to help, but we might end up with a kid that believes in fairy tales.
DM: aye, and it's not like she's been saved by a mysterious little girl and a band of real live puppets from a bad man and worse step-sister to go live with the faries in the happy land.
Me: Yeah, a knight in shining armour might just bring her over the edge.
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2010-03-31, 02:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
Leather Jacket - Fonz has one, doesn't he? And we all know his skills of turning things on...
Codpiece - Just because it's awesome.
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2010-03-31, 02:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
I don't think the skill uses tools, it should probably require the use of tools before masterwork tools give any benefit.
Last edited by Lord Vukodlak; 2010-03-31 at 02:30 PM.
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2010-03-31, 02:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
Room full of monkeys. If enough of them can eventually reproduce Hamlet, it should be child's play for them to guess the correct activation word or action!
SpoilerOriginally Posted by JaronKOriginally Posted by TyndmyrOriginally Posted by Zaq
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2010-03-31, 03:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
A soothing wrist charm. It's faint jingling loosens the mind.
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2010-03-31, 03:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
A mad gnome's laboratory
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2010-03-31, 03:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-31, 03:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
This. But, y'know, more magic.
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2010-03-31, 03:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
You obviously need your very own Hitchhiker's Guide to the Planes. Should probably provide you with the bonus to UMD, as well as probably other Knowledges, like Arcana and the Planes.
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2010-03-31, 03:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-03-31, 03:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
Guide to the Magus, the Pathfinder Gish class.
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2010-03-31, 04:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
I agree with the book idea. Even something as simple as common words and/or alphabets in obscure languages stands a chance of being useful.
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2010-03-31, 04:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Masterwork Tool for UMD?
Not at all. The whole point of having tools in the real world is to be better at skills. You don't need tools to see a small object, but magnifying glasses help. You don't need tools to swim fast, but flippers help. This is what the "masterwork tool" is supposed to replicate in the game world. Just because some skills (like "use rope" for example) cannot be used without a tool doesn't mean they are the only ones that can be better performed with one.
More on topic, I like the idea of a magically active compass-like device that gives you "warmer" or "colder" readings when you're trying to activate a magic item.