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    Default LGBTitp - Part Six

    Welcome, one and all.

    This is a thread where we Playgrounders, and LGBTitp in particular, gather to discuss, share our experiences, give general advice and support one another in such matters as arise relating to, well, the world beyond heteronormaitivity.
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    1. LGBT people in the playground
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    4. LGBTitp 4: We are a family?
    5. LGBTitp - Part Five

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    Hey everyone, I'm not dead

    I know I don't post much, but it is hard to keep up with how fast this thread moves now! So I decided to get in on the front end for this one.
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    So... shiny new thread. Welcome one and all. ^_^
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    Yus. Welcome. So, picking up the last thread, Albis is very cute and must be snuggled. *snuggles Albis*
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    GLOBAL SNUGGLE
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    *is happy to get snuggles*
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    ^_^ This thread is off to a wondrous start. *snuggles and cuddles*
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    From the last thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by PairO'Dice Lost
    To clarify, we're not trying to pressure him either way, and I frankly don't care either way, we're just trying to get him to tone down the posturing. Since a simple "Hey dude, we get it, she doesn't like you, sorry" hasn't done it, I'm wondering if there's a way to gently break it to him that, if he's gay, trying to cover it with macho-ness and homophobia isn't cool without, y'know, straight-out saying "Hey, if you're gay, trying to cover it with macho-ness and homophobia isn't cool." Asking him to just cut out those comments in general hasn't worked, just made them more infrequent.
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    Have you guys given him the "Stop acting the part of a pathetic worm/lovesick puppy" talk about the professing to obsessing thing?

    I believe the usual advice is a sort of intervention if having someone whom he trusts have a conversation with him about such things.
    Like I said, various members of the group have told him to cut it out when he brings it up, and he's toned it down a bit but not stopped. The issue of the intervention is why I asked the question--normally he's a likeable guy and we trust each other, but whenever he gets uncomfortable with the topic he refuses to discuss it further, so we can't really broach the topic.
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    Ah, that new thread smell...

    Wait, that's not new thread! Lix, stop being homophonetic!!!

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    ...What's homophonetic?
    Should I be insulted? DXD
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    Again?! Didn't I just change my signature a week ago?
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    DID SOMEONE SAY SNUGGLES?! *jumps in* Also o hai new thread. There are so many more attractive girls than attractive guys on my campus. Unfortunately, they're straight. Is sad.
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    That's probably one advantage of being borne male. You've got better chances that a girl will be atracted to you.

    And as all the good men are either taken or gay, a man has an advantage here too!
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    YAY! first page!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lix Lorn View Post
    ...What's homophonetic?
    Should I be insulted? DXD
    Homophonetic: A word that sounds like another word. Like Lix... I was just giving you a hard time, sorry.
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    Aaaah. As in licks? ;P I've made that innuendo before.
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    innuendo?
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    hey all, I'm randomly returning. I don't think I have posted since part 4.

    So anyways... I'm sitting here at my parents place (visiting for Easter) and decided to post and ask how people who are not out to their parents, either with regard to sexual orientation, gender identity etc. deal with the off hand comments that might come up from them. So comments that affect directly your own hidden identity. For example, my mom made some kind of gender normative comments today and I snapped back with some gender theory, but don't think anything sunk in. Though I'm an ivory tower intellectual

    Anyways, hope everyone is doing well
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    Anyone can reference Scrubs. XD

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    Well, yeah, they're parents. By the time someone is past 40 you can't really change them at all barring some heavy and invasive violation of human rights or more luck than a system devoid of miracles has any right to. By the time they're past 50, the only thing one can do is wait for them to die or speed the process up.

    Though if they're politicians there might be political leverage that can be applied to their behavior if not their belief.
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    I think you might be a little cynical there... but only a little. DX
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    Yeah, I'm a bad, bad man-like lemur.
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    innuendo?
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    You use that way too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    You use that way too much.
    I know I do
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    Ostien: Awkward silence has served me well in this area. Like, when a parent makes a comment about how a friend of the family's daughter looks like a boy and might be transsexual and I have to keep myself from mentioning that I been awkwardly flirting with her/him at work. .-.

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    That's probably one advantage of being borne male. You've got better chances that a girl will be atracted to you.

    And as all the good men are either taken or gay, a man has an advantage here too!
    Now, I see things as being the opposite. As a guy, you have to woo the girl you are interesting in. You have to prove your superiority and worthiness of dating. As a girl, you just have to look pretty to have guys interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yora View Post
    And as all the good men are either taken or gay, a man has an advantage here too!
    The good women are pretty much taken, too, in my experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacklu View Post
    Now, I see things as being the opposite. As a guy, you have to woo the girl you are interesting in. You have to prove your superiority and worthiness of dating. As a girl, you just have to look pretty to have guys interested.
    This only really applies to first contact. (Mind you, a lot of shy people have the most difficult with precisely that, but still.) I've known more than a few women that really don't comprehend that keeping a guy for more than a one-night stand requires more than looks.
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    New thread. Curious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacklu View Post
    Now, I see things as being the opposite. As a guy, you have to woo the girl you are interesting in. You have to prove your superiority and worthiness of dating. As a girl, you just have to look pretty to have guys interested.
    Having people interested is not enough. To succeed in love and life, either gender must be able to charm and woo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacklu View Post
    Ostien: Awkward silence has served me well in this area. Like, when a parent makes a comment about how a friend of the family's daughter looks like a boy and might be transsexual and I have to keep myself from mentioning that I been awkwardly flirting with her/him at work.
    Well, there's your problem right there. You should have a decided lack of urge to share anything with your parents about flirting with anyone. In fact, it's usually an urge against ever sharing anything about one's sexual urges with one's progenitors. Even amongst ostensibly normal heterosexuals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacklu View Post
    Now, I see things as being the opposite. As a guy, you have to woo the girl you are interesting in. You have to prove your superiority and worthiness of dating. As a girl, you just have to look pretty to have guys interested.
    Oversimplification and forgetting of the lives of humans FTW. To get slept with or knocked up, a woman merely has to catch a guy's eye and be receptive, which, even then, is not always so simple as just being genetically blessed to be smoking hot. To actually have a relationship, a woman has to somehow keep a guy's interest.

    Someone who's vapid and slutty and relies solely on looks to get attention... Well, for one thing they're likely going to be bad in bed if they have that kind of attitude about interpersonal relations, being more of the lay there and take it like a dead frog variety. Two, most of the people who see this and proceed anyway are going to just play the use for sex angle. Which has a fair bit of overlap with that set of people who don't care if one's partner is just laying there like a dead fish.

    Y'know, that whole thing evolutionary biology thing people referencing. Where the women want one mate to stay loyal to them to provide aid and resources for the young, while men have the opposite drive to have as many mates as possible in order to maximize number of offspring at a go.
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    ...which is in turn complicated by the often-conflicting female drives to find both a stable mate and good genes, and the male need to be sure that "his" offspring actually is his.
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    Mind you, I've also known more than a few women who seem driven to have as many mates as possible...
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