3.5 What's the Most broken level 15 Character and most straightforward ?

[Grifthin]

Using any sourcebook - What is the most broken and straight forward level 15 character for one on one combat. I'm not talking about creating your own planes of existance, pun pun etc - I'm talking uber chargers etc - What is the most straight forward level 15 character using any race/class combo that's simple to play that you would recommend for pvp combat. Post links or builds that you like. Exra brownie points for funky ideas.

[2xMachina]

In before Necropolitan Tainted Scholar?

EDIT: Ok, fine. Explaining. (2nd hand)

Undead = no bad effect from taint.
Tainted Scholar casts based on Taint.
Casting evil stuff gets you taint. (IIRC)
(Also, taint is easy to get)

Ergo, cycle of power.

[Thrice Dead Cat]

Most straight forward? Wizard 15. Done. Most broken? Probably some Incantatrix/Tainted Scholar Leadership chain shenanigans where you've got an army of Balors, each with the mind of a 12 year old girl.

[gorfnab]

Druid 5/ Planar Shepherd 10, Dal Quor anyone?

[Skaven]

Depending on what you're facing, but straightforward not likely to get your DM to burn your char sheet, Wizard 15 or Druid 15, no shenanigans.

[Grifthin]

What makes planar shepard so broken ?

[gorfnab]

What makes planar shepard so broken ?

This handy Planar Shepherd Handbook will explain most of it.
Mainly that if you choose the Dal Quor plane you get 10 rounds of actions per 1 round of actual game time. Basically a 10 round Time Stop, with less restrictions, every round while your enemies just get 1 round of actions.

[Emmerask]

well you can turn into outsiders and use their abilities , good casting and very few drawbacks.
And you get timestop only you can effect enemies during the duration which is 10 rounds (planar bubble)... that thing alone will end every single encounter with a victory.
/ninja´d

[Tinydwarfman]

Planar shepherd is really good even without Dal Quor. You lose almost nothing from PrCing into it, and gain a bunch of really good abilities. Notably the Outsider wildshape while keeping all of their SLAs and EX abilities. Efreeti anyone? 3 wishes per wildshape, yes please!

[Grifthin]

This handy Planar Shepherd Handbook will explain most of it.
Mainly that if you choose the Dal Quor plane you get 10 rounds of actions per 1 round of actual game time. Basically a 10 round Time Stop, with less restrictions, every round while your enemies just get 1 round of actions.

Umm, Damn - what would you say is the most efficient way to kill people in that 10 round limit and what feats do you recommend ?

[Lord Vukodlak]

Simply put Cleric, they have the defense and the offense.

[Optimystik]

Planar shepherd is really good even without Dal Quor. You lose almost nothing from PrCing into it, and gain a bunch of really good abilities. Notably the Outsider wildshape while keeping all of their SLAs and EX abilities. Efreeti anyone? 3 wishes per wildshape, yes please!

If you choose the Region of Dreams (MotP) you get both - 10 rounds of fast time, and you can wildshape into Efreet/Noble Djinni.

[Tinydwarfman]

If you choose the Region of Dreams (MotP) you get both - 10 rounds of fast time, and you can wildshape into Efreet/Noble Djinni.

I believe you can't choose non-ebberon planes, since it's ebberon material. Otherwise people would choose shadow and get every creature in the game with the dark template.

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Wizard 5/ Incantatrix 10 is pretty good. Wizard 3/ Master Specialist 4/ Shadowcraft Mage 5/ Shadowcrafter 3 is one of the strongest builds out there, but it's far from straightforward.

I believe you can't choose non-ebberon planes, since it's ebberon material. Otherwise people would choose shadow and get every creature in the game with the dark template.

You cannot Wild Shape into anything that has a template.

[The Dark Fiddler]

Most broken? PunPun + 14 levels.

Most straightforward? Define, please.

[Tavar]

Most broken? PunPun + 14 levels.

Most straightforward? Define, please.

I'm not talking about creating your own planes of existance, pun pun etc - I'm talking uber chargers etc -

Reading Comprehension fail.

Taint Scholar+traditional wizard tricks is probably a good bet. You might also be able to do a mailman build.

[Grifthin]

mailman ? whats that ?

[subject42]

mailman ? whats that ?

So far as I can tell, it's a build that everyone talks about but never defines, then hushes up when somebody asks for an explanation.


(More seriously, I think it's a blaster sorcerer)

[Flickerdart]

Ur-Priest could also work. Because by 15, you'll have finished it, and gotten 9th level casting. Bonus points for Sublime Ur-Theurge shenanigans, but I don't think it gets double nines by 15, even if those levels are a sweet spot for it.

[Boci]

So far as I can tell, it's a build that everyone talks about but never defines, then hushes up when somebody asks for an explanation.


(More seriously, I think it's a blaster sorcerer)

Uses rays and metamagic such as occular and empower spell along with split ray to do a lot of damage. Probably combines arcane thesis in there too.

[Tavar]

Mailman

[subject42]

If you want to avoid spellcasting, the Warforged Soul Eater is pretty broken. If you can get one hit off, the rest pretty much take care of themselves.

[Optimystik]

mailman ? whats that ?

So far as I can tell, it's a build that everyone talks about but never defines, then hushes up when somebody asks for an explanation.


(More seriously, I think it's a blaster sorcerer)

It's pretty straightforward - He delivers the mail.

Seconding Ur-Priest. (Tainted Scholar does not exist in my vocabulary.)

EDIT: Cursed ninjas!

[Boci]

If you want to avoid spellcasting, the Warforged Soul Eater is pretty broken. If you can get one hit off, the rest pretty much take care of themselves.

Wasn't that dispruven with the line that a soul eater can only use its energy drain drain ability on one attack per round?

[subject42]

Wasn't that dispruven with the line that a soul eater can only use its energy drain drain ability on one attack per round?

I hadn't read that before now. Even still, if you only get off one energy drain per attack, that's not too bad if you combine it with a bunch of the warforged racial feats and a few levels of Warforged Juggernaut.

[Tavar]

Oh! Lighting Maces+Selfloading crossbows+Aptitude Weapon=Insane amounts of damage. Just make sure they don't manifest Death Urge on you.

[Tinydwarfman]

Oh! Lighting Maces+Selfloading crossbows+Aptitude Weapon=Insane amounts of damage. Just make sure they don't manifest Death Urge on you.

Or you could do it kukris and be truly infinite. Nice match though.

[Boci]

I hadn't read that before now. Even still, if you only get off one energy drain per attack, that's not too bad if you combine it with a bunch of the warforged racial feats and a few levels of Warforged Juggernaut.

Wouldn't it be a stardard action and a touch attack to bestow a negative enrgy levels? Its a supernatural ability.

[Tavar]

Or you could do it kukris and be truly infinite. Nice match though.

Range is pretty useful, though. Depends on the match conditions, I guess.

[Grifthin]

Ur-Priest could also work. Because by 15, you'll have finished it, and gotten 9th level casting. Bonus points for Sublime Ur-Theurge shenanigans, but I don't think it gets double nines by 15, even if those levels are a sweet spot for it.

Say what ? Is this some kind of arcane/devine hybrid ? Linky pleasE ?