Sewing a bag of holding into your flesh

[danzibr]

First, I should mention I'm playing a Goliath Rogue/Wizard/Unseen Seer. I think I remember reading in some book that you can get a little pouch stitched into your flesh to hide small things, like perhaps a lock pick. I was talking to my DM about this and the idea of getting a bag of holding stitched in came up.

Are there any rules for this? He's alright with houseruling it even if there aren't, but it'd be nice to see something official.

Also, I'm not sure where to put it. Probably the forearm. And probably the absolute largest thing I could take out would be a little dagger. Thinking of it kind of gives me the chills.

Thanks.

Dan

[ghashxx]

I think the problem here is that a bag of holding, when punctured, becomes inert. So while the idea is interesting, it wouldn't work by RAW...but I've never really cared about RAW anyways. Hence why there are constant reminders that DMs should use their own discretion

However, I've got to say this is a terrible idea. An auto kill would be to bull rush you into a portable hole, or stuff your arm into another bag of holding, etc. Any and all extradimensional space, including the 2nd level spell rope trick, would mean auto death or transport to another dimension...alone...which basically means auto death.

Nifty idea that should just require some specialized sewing, like a doctor or someone like that, a good amount of gold to go along with it, and you should be set. But I wouldn't do it.

[Kobold-Bard]

Be a Nomad

Personal Space

You have an extradimensional storage pocket available.
Level: 1st.
Replaces: The bonus feat at 1st level.
Benefit: You gain an extradimensional storage space within your body. You can access it as a psi-like ability by expending your psionic focus. You may send an item to it or retrieve an item as you wish. The size of the storage space grows with your own power. At 1st level it is equivalent to a belt pouch, at 5th level it equals a sack, at 10th level it is the size of a backpack, at 15th level it is the size of a chest, and at 20th level it is the size of a Medium creature.

You cannot store anything that has extradimensional properties, such as a bag of holding , within your personal space. Any attempt will fail.

[Yuki Akuma]

Bags of holding are not that small...

[krossbow]

I've suddenly got the image in my mind of something pulling part of themself open and blackhole sucking someone into oblivion.

[Kobold-Bard]

I've suddenly got the image in my mind of something pulling part of themself open and blackhole sucking someone into oblivion.

You rang?

[QuantumSteve]

While cutting open the bottom or side of a bag of holding ruins it, I don't see why tiny needle holes would. As for surgically implanting it, a bag of holding isn't so much a "small pouch" as a "potato sack" 2'X4' IIRC.

[Krazddndfreek]

They're not that light either...

[Andraste]

There would also be the problem of the size of the bag. A bag of holding is 2 feet by 4 feet, and even the smallest weighs 15 lbs. That would be hard to have in your arm.

EDIT: Gah, Ninja's!

[krossbow]

You rang?

challengers appear!

While cutting open the bottom or side of a bag of holding ruins it, I don't see why tiny needle holes would. As for surgically implanting it, a bag of holding isn't so much a "small pouch" as a "potato sack" 2'X4' IIRC.

Just use glue to attach cloth to the side of the bag, and then sew through those parts.

[PairO'Dice Lost]

However, I've got to say this is a terrible idea. An auto kill would be to bull rush you into a portable hole, or stuff your arm into another bag of holding, etc. Any and all extradimensional space, including the 2nd level spell rope trick, would mean auto death or transport to another dimension...alone...which basically means auto death.

For the hundredth time, it Does Not Work That Way. The only interaction of extradimensional spaces that has any effect is portable hole into bag of holding or vice versa; any other mentions (including the line from rope trick that's copy-pasted from the 2e version) have no rules text attached and thus is flavor text only unless the DM specifically houserules otherwise.

In the case of bag of holding + portable hole, yes, you are screwed; you either lose both the hole and the bag, or lost both of them and then become stranded on the Astral Plane unless you happened to have memorized plane shift that day, both of which suck.

[Kobold-Bard]

challengers appear!

Well that second guy is certainly interesting, but Abyss still wins because he's related to Nightcrawler

There's also this.

Hammerspace: Your body effectively becomes a Type 1 Bag of Holding, able to store items in its extradimensional space by some manner of entry. Unlike most bags of holding, this one cannot be ruptured and can be taken into other dimensional spaces. However, the magic is suppressed in such a situation as if it were in an antimagic field, and the bag cannot be accessed. Other extradimensional spaces may be held within it without threat of disruption. As with a Handy Haversack, the item you intend to draw is always on top.

Though of course it's homebrew so depends on the DM.

[Quirinus_Obsidian]

I detect a ninja, but...

Song and Silence has the Possum Pouch. It's no Bag of Holding, but it would do for small items.

Possum Pouch: Also known as a false stomach, a possum
pouch is a small, fl at, circular bag about 10-12 inches
in diameter and up to 2 inches thick. When placed against a humanoid’s abdomen and sealed there with a command word, it blends in unobtrusively with the surrounding skin, requiring a successful Search check (DC 30) to detect. Spies and couriers find these items useful as hidden diplomatic pouches, while nobles and wealthy merchants sometimes use them as superior money belts.
Assassins and sneak-thieves love possum pouches because they make it easy to smuggle poisons and small valuables into or out of well-guarded houses. Caster Level: 3rd; Prerequisites: Craft Wondrous Item, change self; Market Price: 1,800 gp; Weight: 1 lb.

[ericgrau]

No, that only means it's ambiguous as bag of holdings and portable holes fall under the same tradition and yet their interaction is still RAW. But let's not get into that here.

Everyone has given a dozen different reasons why a bag of holding won't work, but with house-ruling that's not an issue. I'd make the pouch 1 lb. with a 20 lb. weight limit, and also limited only to small things that can fit through the opening. House rule in portable hole immunity if needed (if your group thinks it's an issue), or make the drawback overcome-able by deactivating the bag or make the danger relatively minor.

As for pricing it the downside is low capacity but the upside is convenience. Maybe 1,000 gp?

EDIT: Quirinus_Obsidian, you detected yourself.

[Tiki Snakes]

challengers appear!

Hey, let's not leave out this guy;

Spoiler

Show

Stylish, I always thought.

Anyway forget this 'attach a bag to your arm' thing. Real men have their still-living-skin crafted into their secret Bag of holding. Sew that thing together right into yourself, and have a distorted flap of your own mutilated flesh enchanted as a Bag of Holding.

[strider24seven]

Or you could sew them to your chest to launch raging Thri-Keen Barbarians from your nipples.

(Third spoiler from the top).

[Quirinus_Obsidian]

EDIT: Quirinus_Obsidian, you detected yourself.

I am my own ninja.

[Kobold-Bard]

I am my own ninja.

Was thatintentional, or just a weird time-travelling ninja based incident?

[SethFahad]

Also, I'm not sure where to put it. Probably the forearm. And probably the absolute largest thing I could take out would be a little dagger. Thinking of it kind of gives me the chills.

Well, if you are a sneaky one, you must put it in the least possible place they're going to search...

*cough*... you know what I mean...

[Optimystik]

You can form a Bag of Holding inside you at level 1. Use the Hoard Gullet spell from Dragon Magic.

(Wizards can use it too.)

[Person_Man]

Note that with Sleight of Hand you can hide anything on your body, and unless someone has an equally high Spot check, it can't be found. The only thing limiting how much you can carry is your Str, which is not that hard to boost. And if by some odd chance you come across a huge dragon hoard, there's no reason you can't just buy or build a wagon (I often take a few ranks of Craft carpentry just to cover this and any other tool related eventuality) to haul it away.

Also, Goliath Rogue/Wizard/Unseen Seer? Is there a reason a full caster Skill Monkey would waste +1 LA and nerf his spell progression for Powerful Build? Is there some weird magical Knockback combo I've missed?

[strider24seven]

Play with LA Buyoff and its not so bad.

[danzibr]

Thank you for your responses everyone. I didn't know about handy haversack, so instead I'll probably ask my DM if it's alright to just use one of the side pouches, something similar to what ericgrau was talking about.

@ Person_Man: roleplaying.

[Sinfire Titan]

You may have been mixing this up with the false stomach in CAdv. It's just a belt that's very well disguised.

[Optimystik]

There's always a 'hoard gullet,' too.

*points smugly up at his post*

[Jack_Simth]

Or perhaps something using 'shrink item,' like a modified 'gloves of storing' would be more useful?

Considering that "shrink item" lists "a fire and it's fuel" as an example target, you could probably get "a bag and it's contents" stuffed into a single Glove of Storing that way as a single item. It's not in your flesh... but hey, it's very well hidden. For added fun, combine Shrink Item and Hoard Gullet - reduce a full bag to a tiny little sack, then swallow it.

Just don't think about what an AMF will do to you....