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    Default [4e]Really OLD Beholder

    So I was going to toss a REALLY old Beholder at my players(level 5-6). So how can I make a Beholder be old, like cataracts and no teeth old, but still be very threatening.

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    Make it's attacks 'Burst 1 within range 8', but weaken them, to represent it's lack of ability to focus it's eyes properly.
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    It doesn't so much as demean the celestial monkey's existence, so much as fulfill it. Without the ability to be summoned to set off traps, retrieve objects from dangerous situations, and all and all be a party's guinea pig, the Celestial Monkey would languish in obscurity in the MM and do nothing more legendary than eat celestial bananas.
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    Default Re: [4e]Really OLD Beholder

    give him an enchanted (though rusty helmet)

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    Default Re: [4e]Really OLD Beholder

    Quote Originally Posted by Alabenson
    Evil Intelligence is knowing the precise ritual that will allow you to destroy the peaceful kingdom that banished you.

    Evil Wisdom is understanding that you probably shouldn’t perform said ritual while you’re standing in the estimated blast radius.

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    Default Re: [4e]Really OLD Beholder

    Lords of Madness has some beholders get much more powerful, rather than weaker, as they get older- Elder Orbs.

    That said, not all get more powerful.
    Last edited by hamishspence; 2010-04-07 at 02:43 AM.
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    Default Re: [4e]Really OLD Beholder

    Why not baby beholder?
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    Default Re: [4e]Really OLD Beholder

    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Curious View Post
    Why not baby beholder?
    Because that brings up the subject of the Beholder "Birds and the Bees," and nobody wants to talk about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tackyhillbillu View Post
    Because that brings up the subject of the Beholder "Birds and the Bees," and nobody wants to talk about that.
    The scariest part is that it actually involves birds and bees.
    "We speak for the dead. We are all they have when the wicked steal their voice. But we do not owe them our lives."

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    Default Re: [4e]Really OLD Beholder

    Cataracts dilute your vision into blurryness...so instead of rays, he fires bursts which affect multiple squares. Cut the damage by a fair bit, give it a burst 2 for some of it's eye-rays. Also give it blind-fighting ability and have the PCs fight it in pitch dark. After all, the Beholder learned not to trust it's eyes, so it learned to fight without them in order to keep living. I'd also give it the ability to try and swallow opponents as it's gotta be a pretty big beholder by now

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