OOTS #713 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

[Zanaril]

That's not good.

[Woodsman]

Oh my.

[Saph]

Ooh, ranseur. Nasty.

Nice to see the Order in combat again!

[Closak]

Wow, new comic while i'm online...that's a first.

Poor Haley...
There goes your bow!

...Would someone kindly gag the elf?
It's smug attitude is activating my murderous rage mode

[Sky-Moon]

I do not understand the last panel... :O

[hamishspence]

V didn't specify not to attack- just to "sit on hands"- so the creature attacked while still obeying Suggestion.

[DwarvenExodus]

He's sitting on his hands, but still hostile. Therefore, the breath attack.

[Surfing HalfOrc]

Ouch! Poor Ellan... Roy needs to show up and lay the smackdown on Big Blue and Little Green!

[paddyfool]

Well, that definitely supports the big blue assailant being either a half dragon or a dragon disciple. (EDIT: And I'd guess the first, given how so far there's been no hint of spellcasting and he's wearing armour). Hopefully, though, that bolt wouldn't do enough damage to take Elan down to negatives... even if (as it appears) he failed his reflex save.

Their motives etc. are still unspecified, but I strongly suspect a link to the familicide incident. Possibly some friendship or other link with at least one of the murdered relations, possibly being hired by someone with such a link... the scale of what V did leaves lots of options.

[Fitzclowningham]

I wonder why V didn't use the same suggestion s/he used on the dragon...oh, right, plot.

[Saph]

V had better hope that breath weapon doesn't recharge, otherwise the blue thing's just going to sit there breathing on him at regular intervals until he cooks. :P

By the way, the blade of Elan's rapier seems to be missing in panels 1 and 2.

[Mastikator]

V didn't specify not to attack- just to "sit on hands"- so the creature attacked while still obeying Suggestion.

Indeed, he should have done what he did with the other dragon. "Take no action that I haven't explicitly specified". Bam, dominate monsters as a 4th level spell.

[Deca]

I would have expected V to be a bit more better at wording the Suggestion Spell.

Oh well, we all make mistakes some time.

[Archaicwonder]

action sequence! So happy. I might have to throw a blue half dragon into my next DD& game after seeing that one.

[TheFallenOne]

hm, is Elans fasttalking in panel 1 to reflect a rushed Diplomacy attempt?

[Ossian]

Why is Elan shot out of the pane by the Lightning bolt? I take it that it is because it looks cool but does it also come from a specific rule of the game?

[SPoD]

I wonder why V didn't use the same suggestion s/he used on the dragon...oh, right, plot.

It shouldn't have worked the first time, so maybe V didn't want to push his/her luck by trying it again.

[Gandariel]

now Haley is gonna use for the first time her new dagger... neat! :D

[jolus]

Interesting... very nice.

[Snake-Aes]

I would have expected V to be a bit more better at wording the Suggestion Spell.

Oh well, we all make mistakes some time.

Actively ignoring hostiles would break the suggestion. Sitting on Hands doesn't.

Fun one, really... and detracts further from the whole ABD thing, for once.

The hastened Diplomacy check was awesome.

[Zerg Cookie]

Nice one

[JeminiZero]

Why is Elan shot out of the pane by the Lightning bolt? I take it that it is because it looks cool but does it also come from a specific rule of the game?

Possibly Tempest Breath. Draconomicon pg 74.

[Watcher]

Oh cool. I wonder if Haley actually will use the dagger. Is it anything except a +4 dagger? I don't remember them actually saying.

[Shale]

Not too clever, V.

Nitpick: Elan's rapier is black in the first panel, silver in the others.

[hamishspence]

Why is Elan shot out of the pane by the Lightning bolt? I take it that it is because it looks cool but does it also come from a specific rule of the game?

The same happened to Haley when Tsusiko hit her with a lightning spell.

[Deca]

Actively ignoring hostiles would break the suggestion. Sitting on Hands doesn't.

Yes but he could have said 'sit on your hands and keep your mouth shut'.
Of course, we all forget things when we're nervous about impending death. If I was paralysed and being attacked by a half-dragon with Sauron's mace, I doubt I would remember it had a breath weapon either.
Actually, my most likely choice of action would have been cast no spell and cry myself to sleep.

[maxon]

Fetch?? Go get him Haley.

[Killer Angel]

V didn't specify not to attack- just to "sit on hands"- so the creature attacked while still obeying Suggestion.

The trademark of a smart DM...

[smellie_hippie]

Nice comic. looks like trouble...