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    Default 3.5/pathfinder Are there any feats that let you use Wis instead of Str as atk mod?

    Are there any feats that allow one to use wisdom instead of strength as an attack modifier, the way weapon finesse does it for light weapons? 3.5 or pathfinder
    Last edited by Arillius; 2010-04-11 at 02:46 PM.

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    Default Re: 3.5 or pathfinder/ Using Wisdom instead of Strength as Attack modifier

    Intuitive Attack from BoED does it for simple or natural weapons.

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    Default Re: 3.5 or pathfinder/ Using Wisdom instead of Strength as Attack modifier

    With the errata, Oriental Adventures was updated to 3.5. There you have Shiba Protector (I think, ages ago I checked) which at first level, grants Wis bonus to both Attack Bonus and Damage. This is in addition to any other modifiers.

    Still, it is in Oriental Adventures, which mean it might not be kosher. And in addition, it is a dip which grants really nice bonuses. That might not make the DM love you.
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    Default Re: 3.5/pathfinder Are there any feats that let you use Wis instead of Str as atk mod

    My characters a Neutral character who worships an evil god. My DM wouldn't let me use it.

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    Default Re: 3.5/pathfinder Are there any feats that let you use Wis instead of Str as atk mod

    From X stat to Y bonus:
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    Class/Feat/Race Source Bonus
    RACES/TEMPLATES
    Illumian (Aeshhoon) Races of Destiny p54 3.5 Damage
    Illumian (Uurhuun) Races of Destiny p54 3.5 Reflex
    Saint Template BoED 9185 3.5 AC, +2 LA
    CLASSES
    Battlesmith 1 Races of Stone p96 3.5 Damage
    Citadel Elite 5 Eberron: Sharn p165 3.5 Fort save (in addition to Con)
    Cloud Anchorite Frostburn p52 3.5 Balance, Climb and Jump Skills
    Dragon warrior 1/2 Dragon #298 p104 3.0 Hit Points/AC
    Hunter of the Dead 3 Complete Warrior p43 Saves vs the spells and effects of undead
    Impure Prince 4 Magic of Eberron p74 3.5 Fort (replaces Con)
    Mantis Mercinary 5 OA p231 3.0 AC from dodge feat
    Monk 1 PHB p39 3.5 AC (Doesn't stack with Ninja)
    Ninja 1 Complete Adv. p5 3.5 AC (Doesn't stack with Monk)
    Ordained Champion 5 Complete Champion p91 3.5 Attack/Damage, replaces Str, uses turn attempts
    Perfected One Dragons #297 p56 EPIC PrC: Reflex saves (while unarmoured)
    Sacred Fist 4 Complete Divine p59 3.5 Damage
    Shiba Protector 1 OA p222 3.0 Hit/Damage
    Shifter Drd 5 sub lvl Races of Eberron p127 Replaces Constitution to determine the duration of shifting
    Shifter Rng 1 sub lvl Races of Eberron p128 Replaces Charisma for Wild Empathy
    Soulbow 1 Complete Psionics p36 3.5 Damage (with Mind Arrows)
    Sword Sage 2 Tome of Battle p16 3.5 Wis to AC in light armor
    Sword Sage 4/12 Tome of Battle p16 3.5 Wis to strike damage with chosen discipline
    FEATS
    Dungeoneers Intuition Waterdeep book? p??? 3.5 Trapsense and Trapsense bonus to AC in surprise rounds
    Intuative Strike BoED p44 3.5 Hit
    Serenity DragMag306/DragComp p106 Divine grace, lay on hands, smite evil and turn undead
    Yondalla's Sense Races o' Wild p152 3.5 Initiative
    Zen Archery Complete Warrior p106 3.5 Hit
    SPELLS/POWERS
    EQUIPMENT
    Monk's Belt DMG p248 3.5 AC (listed as "Belt, Monk's")
    OTHER
    Balance Domain PGtF p84 / Underdark p53 AC for 1 round per level
    Watery Death Domain PGtF p92 3.5 Attack (smite, aquatic creatures only)

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    Default Re: 3.5/pathfinder Are there any feats that let you use Wis instead of Str as atk mod

    I'm not sure I understand any of that post. My apologies.

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    Default Re: 3.5/pathfinder Are there any feats that let you use Wis instead of Str as atk mod

    Intuitive Strike (BoED pg. 44) let's you do that.

    EDIT

    The above post is a list that allows you to switch out modifiers.
    Last edited by Apollo1776; 2010-04-11 at 02:57 PM.

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    Default Re: 3.5/pathfinder Are there any feats that let you use Wis instead of Str as atk mod

    Already explained that I can't use that. Its prerequisites needs you to be good. For all intensive purposes I am the chosen one of the evil god trying to enslave the world.

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    Default Re: 3.5/pathfinder Are there any feats that let you use Wis instead of Str as atk mod

    Quote Originally Posted by Arillius View Post
    I'm not sure I understand any of that post. My apologies.
    Check out the thread X Stat to Y Bonus. It's a compilation of ways to add some stat to something, essentially.
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    Default Re: 3.5/pathfinder Are there any feats that let you use Wis instead of Str as atk mod

    Quote Originally Posted by Arillius View Post
    I'm not sure I understand any of that post. My apologies.
    I'll separate out the entires that interest you:

    Illumian (Aeshhoon) Races of Destiny p54 3.5 - Damage
    Battlesmith 1 Races of Stone p96 3.5 - Damage
    Ordained Champion 5 Complete Champion p91 3.5 - Attack/Damage, replaces Str, uses turn attempts
    Sacred Fist 4 Complete Divine p59 - 3.5 Damage
    Shiba Protector 1 OA p222 3.0 - Hit/Damage
    Soulbow 1 Complete Psionics p36 3.5 - Damage (with Mind Arrows)
    Sword Sage 4/12 Tome of Battle p16 3.5 - Wis to strike damage with chosen discipline
    Intuative Strike BoED p44 3.5 - Hit
    Zen Archery Complete Warrior p106 3.5 - Hit
    Watery Death Domain PGtF p92 3.5 - Attack (smite, aquatic creatures only)

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    Default Re: 3.5/pathfinder Are there any feats that let you use Wis instead of Str as atk mod

    Hmmm, well that sucks.

    Any chance you're a ninja or have ki-power class ability?
    Last edited by Apollo1776; 2010-04-11 at 03:01 PM.

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    Default Re: 3.5 or pathfinder/ Using Wisdom instead of Strength as Attack modifier

    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Full View Post
    With the errata, Oriental Adventures was updated to 3.5. There you have Shiba Protector (I think, ages ago I checked) which at first level, grants Wis bonus to both Attack Bonus and Damage. This is in addition to any other modifiers.

    Still, it is in Oriental Adventures, which mean it might not be kosher. And in addition, it is a dip which grants really nice bonuses. That might not make the DM love you.
    I'm trying to keep to cleric levels now. I have one level of fighter so I can use heavy armor, in pathfinder clerics can't, and to get all the martial weapon proficiencies.

    I've found out about zen archery, I'm probably going to take it at level 6, but I was hoping to find something I could take at level 3 fore melee weapons.

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