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2010-04-18, 01:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
How would you make a PC like MacGuyver in a 'generic' dnd setting?
An artificer comes to mind pretty quick, but how would you do it WITHOUT magic?
In a similar vein, who would win in a fight: McGuyver or the Ateam?
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2010-04-18, 01:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
Psionic artificer ?
No, seriously, there just isn't enough choice and utility in the non-magical items. D&d's equivalent for chemistry, alchemy, doesn't have nearly as many applications, and you know what they say about catgirls and physics.
Magic in d&d is our world's science. Definitely artificer.
Also, they team up against a greater evil.Last edited by Ranos; 2010-04-18 at 01:56 PM.
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2010-04-18, 01:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
+1 agreed.
And A-Team > McGuyver. They have the numbers, the widespread knowledge, and lots of guns.Sanity is an illusion I wear.
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2010-04-18, 01:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
Artificer is a good choice, but if you don't want magic just plain rogue is great. Disable device, tons of skill points, and you get escape artist.
That said he wouldn't be much good solo in a fight, especially because of a certain unarmed Swordsage who PITTIES DA FOO.Ask me about our low price vacation plans in the Elemental Plane of Puppies and PieSpoiler
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2010-04-18, 02:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
Factotum is the best MacGyver, no doubt. It's the ultimate skillmonkey and can alter it's class features to adapt to new circumstances each day. I guess it's not entirely magic-free because you can cherry pick a couple divine/arcane spells per day. Prestige class into Chameleon to get even more awesome class features that emulated another class's class features, you'll never be in a circumstance you can't adapt to. Also, for their class skills it literally says "All" how can you get more awesome than that?
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2010-04-18, 02:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-04-18, 03:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
Craft (trapmaking) can be pretty hot with DM fiat.
but yeah artificer
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2010-04-18, 04:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
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2010-04-18, 04:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
If you're open to homebrew, you might want to try the jury-rigger prestige class. It's very mcguyver-like. Factotum is the best entry.
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2010-04-18, 06:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
If you prefer third-party, Chaositech isn't explicitly magical and Chaositechnicians can do some awesome things with them on the spot.
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2010-04-18, 07:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
FYI, it's spelled
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2010-04-18, 07:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
I prefer MacGruber.
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2010-04-18, 08:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
I prefer Guyver.
(who could totally take a dragon)Last edited by Prime32; 2010-04-18 at 08:22 PM.
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2010-04-18, 08:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
Also, I think that MacGyver picture is infested with malware. Chrome keeps telling me to avoid this page.
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2010-04-18, 08:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-04-18, 09:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
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2010-04-18, 10:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
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That's weird. I mean, it's a Wikimedia picture, the one that That Other Wiki uses on their MacGyver page.Diamond Mind avatar provided by Abardam.
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2010-04-18, 10:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
This is what it says:
The website at www.giantitp.com contains elements fromt he site shawntionary.com, which appears to host malware - software that can hurt your computer or otherwise operate without your consent. Just visiting a site that contains malware can infect your computer.Last edited by Lycanthromancer; 2010-04-18 at 10:22 PM.
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2010-04-18, 10:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
Nah, that's cssmythe3's avatar.
Odd. Sounds like a false alarm to me--Shawn doesn't intentionally host any malware on his site, just bitchin' webcomics, though I suppose he could have contracted some without his knowledge.
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2010-04-18, 10:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-04-19, 02:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
Firefox with AdBlock Plus also regards it as malware, and declines to participate
In other news, I would definitely call MacGyver an Artificer. Magic is the new Technology, according to Ebberon, and he's infamous for making widgets out of the random crap you find lying around, which Artificers can manage with their class abilities.SpoilerQuite possibly, the best rebuttal I have ever witnessed.
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2010-04-19, 02:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
MacGuyver > A-Team. Neither ever kill, making the guns something moot.
MacGuyver will overcome being bound and gagged in a janitor's closet with nothing more than the items he finds on hand. (so even if A-Team captures him, they can't hold him)
The A-Team have no such abilities.
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2010-04-19, 07:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-04-19, 10:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: McGuyver vs the A-Team vs a Dragon
Ack! Got that fixed quick, thanks for the warning. Poor Shawn - Clockworks is one of my favorite webcomics.
And for the record, apparently MacGyver wins:
http://www.grudge-match.com/History/...macgyver.shtml
Thanks for all your input!