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    Default legolas used loaded die

    anyways, here's the challenge: Figure out a way to stat out legolas from the movie version of lord of the rings and him being able to do all the insane stuff he does without blatantly cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krossbow View Post
    anyways, here's the challenge: Figure out a way to stat out legolas from the movie version of lord of the rings and him being able to do all the insane stuff he does without blatantly cheating.
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    I dunno, I'm pretty sure that Legolas was so good because he trained for a while. It's hard to miss a shot with a bow if you've been training in it for the past 400 years
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    He's an Eternal Blade. Done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldariel View Post
    He's an Eternal Blade. Done.
    Does one gain the ability to surf on a shield down an incline from that class?
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    Quote Originally Posted by krossbow View Post
    Does one gain the ability to surf on a shield down an incline from that class?
    That's called, "Make a Balance check."

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    Does one gain the ability to surf on a shield down an incline from that class?
    The DM (one of the middle earth gods I guess) used the rule of the cool and let that happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arguskos View Post
    That's called, "Make a Balance check."
    True, but one would think that would require a pretty insane one to do so while full attacking foes with your bow.

    Estimated DC?
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    An Exalted Dawn cast archer. What you never said what system.

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    It's a homebrew d20 campaign with different skill checks and the like.

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    I've always assumed Legolas was just a Ranger, but he was played by the DM's girlfriend so he just let her get away with stuff.

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    I would see the balance as a sloped or angled floor (10) + severely slippery (5) + severely obstructed -steps- (5). DC 20.

    Instead of a full attack he could be using manyshot (shutters).

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    Arcane archer. That way he can use his ultimate Arrows (slaying, seeking ect) and Max ranks in Climb, jump and balance. And good charisma.
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    4e archer ranger fighting against a billion minions.

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    4e archer ranger fighting against a billion minions.

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    Honestly, Eternal Blade uses Quicksilver Motion to move and decides to fluff his full attack on the same time as the movement instead of shooting after, and TWFs with Arrow + Bow vs. average mooks and Time Stands Still a billion arrows per turn and learns whatever Strike he needs whenever he needs it with Eternal Training and yeah. He's an Eternal Blade.
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    I've always assumed Legolas was just a Ranger, but he was played by the DM's girlfriend so he just let her get away with stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_khaine View Post
    This explains just about the entire movie.
    I'd also think that's why he's such a bishie. :P

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    http://www.thealexandrian.net/creati...librating.html

    Read it. Legolas, Aaragon and such, where not level 20 god people. They were...get this...Level 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morithias View Post
    http://www.thealexandrian.net/creati...librating.html

    Read it. Legolas, Aaragon and such, where not level 20 god people. They were...get this...Level 5.

    Book Fellowship of the rings yes; Movie fellowship of the rings, no way in the 9 hells
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morithias View Post
    http://www.thealexandrian.net/creati...librating.html

    Read it. Legolas, Aaragon and such, where not level 20 god people. They were...get this...Level 5.
    Please, Gandalf was a Maiar. Alexander hasn't read the book I think if he passes off Gandlaf as lv 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck_II View Post
    Please, Gandalf was a Maiar. Alexander hasn't read the book I think if he passes off Gandlaf as lv 5.
    If you actually read the article you would see this statement "Gandalf is a demigod cloaked in mortal form and I’d have difficulty statting him up as even a 10th level character."

    So yeah...you didn't even read it. Read the info before trying to discredit it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morithias View Post
    If you actually read the article you would see this statement "Gandalf is a demigod cloaked in mortal form and I’d have difficulty statting him up as even a 10th level character."

    So yeah...you didn't even read it. Read the info before trying to discredit it.
    So even he states he is wrong. As he states, okay not everyone is 5th lv.

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    Did he invent E6?~
    I find his arguments very convincing.
    I am also a big fan of both E6, and Epic Level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AslanCross View Post
    I'd also think that's why he's such a bishie. :P

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    By RAW, a character with at least 10 ranks in a skill can use that skill to perform 'practically impossible' actions. One of the listed examples was "swim up a waterfall."

    Grinding down a staircase on the back of an orcish shield certainly qualifies.

    So even he states he is wrong. As he states, okay not everyone is 5th lv.
    There are exceptions. He was trying to point out that you don't have to be ridiculously high level to be exceptional.

    The LotR heroes are shown to be threatened by basic opponents that could easily fit in the CR 1 - 5 range. The fact that the character performs the occasional stunt that appears to be level-inappropriate is irrelevant - clearly they are gestalt/have some custom feat, skill, magic item, spell, or whatever.

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    An Exalted Dawn cast archer. What you never said what system.
    +1 to this. That sort of stuff is pretty much par for the course in Exalted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flob View Post
    The DM (one of the middle earth gods I guess) used the rule of the cool and let that happen.
    eg: the Dramatic Tactical Combat system of Paranoia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sambo. View Post
    eg: the Dramatic Tactical Combat system of Paranoia.
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