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2010-05-04, 09:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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DFI build
Can I get a cite on the sources necessary to be able to do a Bard/Warblade Dragonfire Inspiration build? I'm looking for everything that can give a boost to Inspire Courage, and the feats necessary to do DFI and change the flavor to another element?
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2010-05-04, 09:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: DFI build
Tome of Battle: Warblade [Class], Song of the White Raven [Feat]
Dragon Magic: Dragonfire Inspiration [Feat], Dragonblooded Races (Silverbrow Human [Race] in particular), Dragontouched [Feat] if desperate
Races of the Dragon: Dragonborn of Bahamut (to make any race Dragonblooded) [Template]
Eberron Campaign Settings: Song of the Heart [Feat]
Spell Compendium: Inspirational Boost [Spell]
Book of Exalted Deeds: Words of Creation [Feat]
Dungeon Master's Guide II: Vest of Legend [Item]
Complete Adventurer: Mw. Instruments [Item]
Magic Item Compendium: Badge of Valor [Item]
That should about cover everything you'll want. Not all of that is necessary, of course, but that's the basic Inspire Courage optimization.Campaign Journal: Uncovering the Lost World - A Player's Diary in Low-Magic D&D (Latest Update: 8.3.2014)
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2010-05-04, 11:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: DFI build
Thanks, that's exactly what I needed.
SpoilerQuite possibly, the best rebuttal I have ever witnessed.
Joker Bard - the DM's solution to the Batman Wizard.
Takahashi no Onisan - The scariest Samurai alive
Incarnum and YOU: a reference guide
Soulmelds, by class and slot: Another Incarnum reference
Multiclassing for Newbies: A reference guide for the rest of us
My homebrew world in progress: Falcora
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2010-05-04, 11:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: DFI build
This had better not be part of a Singing Stonelord build, Shneekey!
Also, excellent list Eldariel. Very nicely compiled.
I'll add in that Dread Pirate (C. Adv) is full BAB and progresses Inspire Courage more rapidly than a bard, gaining +1 at 3rd and 7th levels. I'd generally prefer to take more warblade levels though :PHandbooks: (Hosted on the new MixMax forums)
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2010-05-04, 11:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: DFI build
The only way to change the flavor is to be a 1/2 Dragon or take the Dragonic Heritage feat. The feat requires you to be a 1st level Sorcerer. Dragontouched makes you a 1st level Sorcerer, effectively. Thats 2 feats to change your flavor, on top of DFI, Song of the White Raven, and Song of the Heart. Thats of your 4/8 feats, if you are human. Makes it tough to fit in TWF and the other feats you need.
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2010-05-04, 11:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-05-04, 11:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: DFI build
There is racial substitution level in RoD, I think, that gives dargonblood sorceror Draconic Heritage (Useful for changing energy type of DFI) instead of familiar.
EDIT: Eldariel listed pretty much everything you, though there are couple more things here, that you may find useful.Last edited by marjan; 2010-05-05 at 12:01 AM.
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2010-05-05, 12:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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This is not for any build on this board. It's for a RL game. Basically, party needs a good beatstick and meatshield, and has a TWF rogue in it already, as well as a Druid which focuses heavily on summoning lots of very dangerous things that can also benefit from lots of dice extra damage
SpoilerQuite possibly, the best rebuttal I have ever witnessed.
Joker Bard - the DM's solution to the Batman Wizard.
Takahashi no Onisan - The scariest Samurai alive
Incarnum and YOU: a reference guide
Soulmelds, by class and slot: Another Incarnum reference
Multiclassing for Newbies: A reference guide for the rest of us
My homebrew world in progress: Falcora
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2010-05-05, 12:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: DFI build
No. Dragonfire Inspiration is explicit. It states:
Originally Posted by Dragon Magic pg. 18
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2010-05-05, 12:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: DFI build
IIRC, you can still take it as dragonborn or silverbrow human, it just will be fire damage instead of sonic.
Shneekey, if you have the feats to spare, Draconic Aura and Double Draconic Aura could compliment your stances and singing for more party buffs.Handbooks: (Hosted on the new MixMax forums)
[3.5] The Poison Handbook
[3.5] (New) Master of Shrouds Handbook
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2010-05-05, 12:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: DFI build
Campaign Journal: Uncovering the Lost World - A Player's Diary in Low-Magic D&D (Latest Update: 8.3.2014)
Being Bane: A Guide to Barbarians Cracking Small Men - Ever Been Angry?! Then this is for you!
SRD Averages - An aggregation of all the key stats of all the monster entries on SRD arranged by CR.
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2010-05-05, 11:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-05-05, 02:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: DFI build
It actually doesn't let you take it though. You'd need the Dragontouched feat (which redundantly makes you dragonblooded again) or a level of sorcerer before you can take Draconic Heritage.
Handbooks: (Hosted on the new MixMax forums)
[3.5] The Poison Handbook
[3.5] (New) Master of Shrouds Handbook
[3.5 Base Class] Healer's Handbook
Trophies!Spoiler
Thanks to Strategos and Jumilk for the awesome Iron Chef trophies!