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    For a backup character.

    What's the best way to make a gish out of an artificer? What's a good stat distribution on 36 points? Prestige classes(Is renegade mastermaker any good?)?

    Can such a character be made to pull his weight in a party that already has a barbarian and a warblade?

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    You could try to play a Meleeficer. Read the Artificer Handbook section about them: http://brilliantgameologists.com/boa...1&topic=5929.0

    Renegade Mastermaker...not really worth it. Play a warforged instead and roleplay him as a level 10 renegade mastermaker. No difference whatsoever.

    Remember that artificers dont generally multiclass unless they get spell lists out of it and only for 1 level (so they wont have to roll UMD checks to activate the items with those spells on it). Thus, you should play a straight artificer focusing on bolstering his melee prowess.

    Attune Magic Weapon is a must for this type of character. It is like weapon focus and half a weapon specialisation for any magical weapon you weild. And it stacks with wep focus/specialisation.

    As for stats: go with a 16 in STR, a 12 in DEX, a 14 CON, a 14 in INT, 14 WIS and 12 CHA. You can dump WIS if you dont want to focus on casting divine spells reliably from items.
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    Metamagic Item-infusion combined with Persistent Spell and various Wands (Eternal and otherwise as applicable) is the heart and soul of Meleeificer; then you are ClericandWizardandDruidzilla with tons of insane spells on you and yeah. Of course, buff Infusions too. But Metamagic Item gets you Divine Power and the like.
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    Default Re: Artificer Gish

    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Bob View Post
    For a backup character.

    What's the best way to make a gish out of an artificer? What's a good stat distribution on 36 points? Prestige classes(Is renegade mastermaker any good?)?

    Can such a character be made to pull his weight in a party that already has a barbarian and a warblade?

    All official 3.5 material is permitted. Psionics are discouraged but not forbidden.
    Renegade Mastermaker's great...If you are a moron and don't use Warforged or Warforged Scout

    However, I say take Swashbuckler

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodenSword View Post
    Renegade Mastermaker's great...If you are a moron and don't use Warforged or Warforged Scout
    Renegade Mastermaker isn't great for any race. While warforged artificer has great flavour, I wouldn't declare them the best race for the job. Warforged scouts just suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenish View Post
    Renegade Mastermaker isn't great for any race. While warforged artificer has great flavour, I wouldn't declare them the best race for the job. Warforged scouts just suck.
    He wwas reffering to the fact that you get everything you need from renegade mastermaker by being a warforged or a warforged scout. Warforged dont qualify for Renegade Mastermaker by not being living beings, but being living constructs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayar View Post
    He wwas reffering to the fact that you get everything you need from renegade mastermaker by being a warforged or a warforged scout.
    Yes, I know. He was also saying that if you aren't warforged, Renegade Mastermaker is a great class, which is what I objected to.
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    Default Re: Artificer Gish

    Before level 7:
    Attune Personal Weapon infusion + Bane enhancement.
    Add default Cleric/Wizard/Ranger/Paladin/Bard buffs via Spell Storing Item.
    If you have Wands that can be persisted (Swift Haste, Swift Fly, Wraithstrike, Divine Power, whatever), start persisting.

    At and beyond level 7:
    Make wands of spells that can be persisted [from any list in the game]. Persist them. Smash everything.

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