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2010-05-18, 09:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Multi-Weapon/Two-Weapon interaction
Greetings good people of the internet;
So, as you can probably tell from the topic title, I was wondering if there was some kind of general consensus as to how feats like Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, Two-Weapon Defense, and Over-Sized Two-Weapon Fighting work with Multi-Weapon Fighting on a character with more than two arms. does Over-Sized Two-Weapon Fighting apply to weapons held in all off hands or just one? and can the character still take Improved and Greater Two-Weapon Fighting? I'm mostly unsure because most of those feats say 'the off hand' or 'when wielding two weapons' or something similar and while I'd like it if I could have a character with a lot of attacks with one-handed weapons acting as light weapons, I didn't want to build a character like that if it was 'against the rules.' I hope this isn't a stupid question; I'm just looking for a little clarification.
Thanks
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2010-05-18, 09:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Multi-Weapon/Two-Weapon interaction
Two-Weapon Fighting is only for characters with two hands. Once a creature has more than two-hands, Multiweapon Fighting takes its place. The other TWF tree feats are simply replaced with MWF versions thereof. A creature with more than two limbs cannot take TWF feats, but all instances of TWF feats are simply "Multiweapon Defense" and "Oversized Multiweapon Fighting."
Besides, doesn't the Marilith already use multiple one-handed weapons? It seems it doesn't have the same "light weapons get the least penalty" for secondary weapons.
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2010-05-18, 10:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Multi-Weapon/Two-Weapon interaction
When I DM, I combine both feat trees into one, because it's just stupid otherwise.
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2010-05-18, 10:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Multi-Weapon/Two-Weapon interaction
I guess that should've been obvious; I think my confusion came from the MWF feat saying that it replaced TWF, and I thought that meant that it counted as TWF for the character. Thanks for the quick response
P.S. what do you know, it was a stupid question!Last edited by Jozluz; 2010-05-18 at 10:14 PM.
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2010-05-19, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Multi-Weapon/Two-Weapon interaction
Last edited by KillianHawkeye; 2010-05-19 at 02:26 PM.
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2010-05-19, 04:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Multi-Weapon/Two-Weapon interaction
Similar question:
I have a (3.5) thri-kreen ranger with the two-weapon track. I also took multiweapon fighting, and am using two gythkas (double weapons for thri-kreen). How would two-weapon fighting, multiweapon fighting, and double weapons interact (thri-kreen can use gythkas like they already have TWF).
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2010-05-19, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Multi-Weapon/Two-Weapon interaction
If you want to use four weapons (even if they're four ends of two double weapons) you need Multiweapon fighting. Two-weapon fighting won't help you there, unless you want to use your 4 arms for two two-handed weapons.
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2010-05-20, 01:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-05-20, 03:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-05-20, 03:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Multi-Weapon/Two-Weapon interaction
Man this thing was full of outdated stuff.
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2010-05-21, 01:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-05-21, 02:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Multi-Weapon/Two-Weapon interaction
9 and 15. It's all there in the manual.
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2010-05-21, 02:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-05-22, 01:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Multi-Weapon/Two-Weapon interaction
Thanks for the link
Are there specific rules for Multi-Weapon Defense or Over-Sized MWF? Because I can't seem to find those.