So then I made a comment...

[Kaskos]

So there i was with my Rogue based character playing the long game this friday when we got talking about our other game where the main 2 guys in question were my lvl 13 Frenzied Berserker now, and my mates lvl 13 Cleric - surely enough the boasting started.
I could kill you, No you couldnt etc etc.
I conceded that i was only amazing whilst the cleric was there to save my HP when i got to -50 and so forth but the boast continued -

I claimed that it wasnt likely gonna be that hard to make a lvl 13 character that wasnt a cleric, that could in fact beat his Titanium Armoured Cleric with an ability that gives him 10 dmg reduction and spells such as Harm and so forth.

I know he is a big fan of Divine Might and his empowered heals and harm if required - my problem is - i guess a straight Druid might be able to beat him... but any playgrounders wanna see if they can fool proof beat this mammoth cleric for me?

Only restrictions - basic races, no LA and no ToB.
Any builds or simply health greatly received.
(We make him lvl 13 and standard starting gold for that level)

[Escheton]

desintegrate, dc hyped, done

[2xMachina]

No Cleric?

Wizard.

[Godskook]

Are you willing to go full-caster? Cause there's a couple options I'm sure.

As for non-caster versus cleric, you're kinda screwed.

[Kaskos]

Any class is allowed as long as its not ToB and is a standard no LA race.

Bear in mind though, he is a VERY experienced palyer and has taken out some of the biggest creatures we have come across in one or two well placed crits.

I dont mind Melee, and i dont mind caster. I am just not allowed to go Cleric

[Beorn080]

I assume it would be a standardish Test of Spite sort of battle? Rouge, pack a scroll or three of disjunction.

[Chrono22]

Is he a smart player? Does he have multiple holy symbols? Cause if not, you can simply sunder/sleight of hand it away from him.

[Kaskos]

Is he a smart player? Does he have multiple holy symbols? Cause if not, you can simply sunder/sleight of hand it away from him.

He is intelligent and i dont know where his Holy Symbol is.

And yeah - just need him to be beaten before me really.

[Godskook]

Actually, a Totem Rager might be doable. What do you know about his build?

Or you could go with a schismed Psion dropping ego whips. You're likely to kill him in a single nova'd attack unless (A)he buffs Cha a whole lot or (B)he's immune to ability damage.

Let's see, what's he vulnerable to, going down the list:

-Ability Damage
-Stun
-Fear
-Entangle(Does he have evasion?)
-Flight

Knowing what he prepares for and what he's typically capable of is kinda key to beating him.

[goken04]

Hit his Touch AC with a Ray Wizard. Dip a level of Spellthief and take Master Spellthief to cast wizard spells in light armor then go Spellwarp Sniper from Complete Scoundrel. DONE.

[Kaskos]

Actually, a Totem Rager might be doable. What do you know about his build?

Or you could go with a schismed Psion dropping ego whips. You're likely to kill him in a single nova'd attack unless (A)he buffs Cha a whole lot or (B)he's immune to ability damage.

Let's see, what's he vulnerable to, going down the list:

-Ability Damage
-Stun
-Fear
-Entangle(Does he have evasion?)
-Flight

Knowing what he prepares for and what he's typically capable of is kinda key to beating him.

I dont know the Totem Rager and what i am most worried about is Harm and the empowering side of him. He loves to use Divine Might and has uber armour and crossed with an ability gives him the 10 Dmg reduction. If he thinks he is in for a fight, he will buff up good and ready

[Doc Roc]

Basically, he's not playing very strongly, if he's sticking to just empowered heals and harm. Level 13, you said?

What's his AC, his touch ac, and his charisma or his dex?

[gallagher]

just to spite him, i would go druid, and show him how some real badassery with a divine caster that is also a bear. and an eagle. and a dinosaur

[Kaskos]

Basically, he's not playing very strongly, if he's sticking to just empowered heals and harm. Level 13, you said?

What's his AC, his touch ac, and his charisma or his dex?

Hiya Doc. I cant recal exactly but i believe his AC with armour is around 34.
Not high Dex due to big armour but i can find this out as i get to use his stats to make my opposition.

He is well statted - not amazing but well statted.
And thats not all he sticks to - they are just the bits he likes to use

[Godskook]

I dont know the Totem Rager and what i am most worried about is Harm and the empowering side of him. He loves to use Divine Might and has uber armour and crossed with an ability gives him the 10 Dmg reduction. If he thinks he is in for a fight, he will buff up good and ready

Do you know anything tangibly explicit about his build? Like how high his wisdom is, what his race or build is, what he normally prepares or is immune to?

Cause unless he's immune to ability damage, an Ego Whip psion would down him fast.

If he can't fly and doesn't have decent range, there's a lot you can work with there.

If he's not immune to fear, you can play around with Schneeky's Samurai of fear.

[Edwin]

just to spite him, i would go druid, and show him how some real badassery with a divine caster that is also a bear. and an eagle. and a dinosaur

Go for Fleshraker and poison his ass to infinity and beyond.

[tyckspoon]

I dont know the Totem Rager and what i am most worried about is Harm and the empowering side of him. He loves to use Divine Might and has uber armour and crossed with an ability gives him the 10 Dmg reduction. If he thinks he is in for a fight, he will buff up good and ready

Totem Rager is a nice theurging PrC for Barbarian and Totemist. Makes for one of the more entertaining melee builds in D&D, IMO, but it probably doesn't have the juice to take on a fully operational Clericzilla (on the other hand, if he's not a Persist cleric, you could probably take him out before/while he's trying to get his buffs running.) If you go with a casting build, you shouldn't have to worry about Harm unless he's put the effort into making it a Reach spell, since there is absolutely no reason he should ever get close enough to Touch you without being completely disabled already. Or if you use another divine class you can just run Death Ward and ignore it.

I'd probably go with an arcane caster (big surprise!) and run disabling tactics. Grab a Dispelling Cord (MIC) and the Elven Spell Lore feat, zot off any long-term buffs he has with a Greater Dispel Magic, and follow up with a Quickened Ray of Enfeeblement. Then Waves of Fatigue/Exhaustion or Ray of Exhaustion, depending on how many spell levels you want to spend and how confident you are of beating his saves. (If you get him Exhausted, you might actually be able to draw a Heal out of him to remove it- there are lower level spells that will fix it, but I would bet there's good chances he won't have bothered to prep them.)

[Kaskos]

Do you know anything tangibly explicit about his build?
Like how high his wisdom is, what his race or build is, what he normally prepares or is immune to?
I am working on getting this info - but it is likely 18-20.

Cause unless he's immune to ability damage, an Ego Whip psion would down him fast.
He is not immune to ability damage.

If he can't fly and doesn't have decent range, there's a lot you can work with there.
He can't fly, he has the standard range a Cleric would


If he's not immune to fear, you can play around with Schneeky's Samurai of fear
He is not immune to Fear.
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And apparently i need words here to lengthen my post

[IonDragon]

I could do it with Sorcerer. I wouldn't, but I could.

[Greenish]

A fighter/barbarian based charger with a dip to something for using a wand of wraithstrike to attack touch AC. You need to beat his initiative and smash him to pieces, but by the sound of it that shouldn't be too hard.

[PId6]

Dragonborn Water Orc Barbarian 1/Fighter 1/Sorcerer 4/Spellsword 1/Abjurant Champion 5/Eldritch Knight 1

Take Power Attack, Shock Trooper, Leap Attack, and wield a two-handed weapon. Make the weapon Transmuting to get through his DR. Alternatively, take Draconic Polymorph and turn into a 10-headed Pyrohydra if you're feeling mean.

Combat:
Round 0: Buff yourself as high as possible with hour/level spells. Use Overland Flight so he can't get to you at the start.
Round 1: Cast Wraithstrike. Rage. Charge at him with full Power Attack. Kill him in one hit.
Round 2: Dance over his corpse.
Round 3: ???
Round 4: Profit

[Greenish]

Round 1: Cast Wraithstrike. Rage. Charge at him with full Power Attack. Kill him in one hit.

Remember spirit lion totem & whirling frenzy for the unlikely case that he somehow survives your first swing.

[Lycanthromancer]

Go wizard.

His Dexterity, Reflex save, and touch AC are probably crap. Hit him with a metamagicked shivering touch (using a ranged touch attack via any number of means) to knock his Dex to 0 so he can't move, sunder his (un)holy symbol, then pull out some of the allips you've brought along via Undead Leadership, and some of the level-draining ones (like vampires) to eat him for breakfast.

Then start laughing at him for being a cleric that was eaten alive by undead.

Feel free to use the same build to kill him in 55,000 different ways (as we can show you how).

[gorfnab]

level 13...Druid 5/ Planar Shepherd 8 chosen plane Dal Quor

[The Shadowmind]

Okay, what about a Binder so you can sneak up on him in the aether realm(5-steps at a time), with the mage slayer line, and a Blasphemix, and other poisons coated weapon.

[Vaynor]

You're worried a lot about Harm, which is a touch spell, may I suggest a flying Wizard? Specialize in rays to bypass his armor class (I doubt he buffs his Dexterity much) and destroy his stats. Does he have a high Intelligence? If not, metamagic the crap out of Ray of Stupidity until he can't do anything. Make sure to get spells like Ray Deflection to defend yourself.

Edit: A sorcerer might even work better for this, since it's a single battle and you won't need that much versatility for a single fight, just select your spells specifically for it.

[Ferrin]

Okay, what about a Binder so you can sneak up on him in the aether realm(5-steps at a time), with the mage slayer line, and a Blasphemix, and other poisons coated weapon.

Don't forget binding Tenebrous for the immunity to Negative Energy and a high bluff check. Wonder if he'll keep using it.

[Heliomance]

If he uses Harm a lot, go Necropolitan. Make no attempt to avoid the Harm. Laugh heartily.

[Lycanthromancer]

If he uses Harm a lot, go Necropolitan. Make no attempt to avoid the Harm. Laugh heartily.

Uh...he's a cleric. They can seriously hurt undead if they want to.

Also remember: he has heals too.

[Ferrin]

If he uses Harm a lot, go Necropolitan. Make no attempt to avoid the Harm. Laugh heartily.

You're an undead, rebuke/turn or Heal. Good job sherlock!

Damn, got ninjad.