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Druids and longswords
Does an Elf Druid violate his oaths if he wields a longsword? Or it's just a matter of armor?
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Druids no longer have a code of conduct to violate. Their weapon selection is limited by training not vows. Their armor limitation is due to the fact that it somehow messes up their spell casting while wearing it and for 24 hrs after.
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Re: Druids and longswords
In 3.5 the example druid build in the PHB uses a scimitar, which is also made of metal (as the longsword). The only thing that keeps a druid from using a longsword is the lack of martial weapon proficiency.
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The language on the SRD is that they're prohibited from wearing metal armor, and I believe the PHB explicitly says it's due to their oaths. That's only their armor, though, not their weapons; they can wield whatever they feel like without penalty if they're proficient with it.
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2010-05-25, 08:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Indeed, Scimitar is a legal Druid weapon which is...well, not very far from a Longsword at all. So it would be pretty silly for the limitation to not prevent Scimitars, only Longswords.
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Okay, had my answer. Thank you all.
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And if you're wandering around in the Forgotten Realms and worship Mielikki as a druid, you can wear any damn armor you like of light or medium size and not violate your spiritual oaths. I have a strong suspicion this is because a certain dual-wielding drow was shoehorned into worship of Mielikki by Bobby Salvatore, but that's another matter.
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The only consequence to wearing armor is to lose the ability to cast spells while wearing it and for 24 hours after (and maybe other class features, I'm not sure). It seems like the 'spiritual oaths' that druids make are very forgiving of being broken.
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2010-05-25, 09:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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You also lose Wildshape.Only the one about armour. Breaking any of the rest loses you all class features (bar proficiencies) and requires Atonement.
[Edit]:It's funny that the goddess of the Forests and Hunt is closer to civilization than the god of woods and fields.Last edited by Greenish; 2010-05-25 at 09:49 AM.
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Not really. Think about it - hunting and exploration are the primary reason for outsiders to enter the wilds in the first place. As they are both under her portfolio, she thus has more reason to deal with outsiders than the others.
Think of her as the nature deities' outreach program - in order to connect with the city-dwellers more closely, she grants her druids concessions that the others do not.
Also, Silvanus is too much of a traditionalist to ever consider lifting that restriction, but it makes sense for his daughter to be a more progressive thinker.
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Of course not, this is a magical economy. Your commoners plant the fields and harvest the fields. Between those two times, they never set foot in the fields at all, because the town has pooled tax money to pay a 5th level druid to cast Plant Growth for a bountiful harvest.
So the commoners instead spend all their time fixing up their farmhouses, which the sourcebooks say cost anywhere between 2000 and 14000 gp each. Clearly they have to use work-equity to get that..
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I actually burned a feat for Heavy Armor, and made a Shapeshifting Darkwood set of Fullplate. THAT was a riot.
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Druid's are prohibited from wielding and wearing worked non-natural materials.
Scimitars are rather crude, thus they don't count.Last edited by Escheton; 2010-05-25 at 11:51 PM.
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srd doublecheck:
Weapon and Armor Proficiency: Druids are proficient with the following weapons: club, dagger, dart, quarterstaff, scimitar, sickle, shortspear, sling, and spear. They are also proficient with all natural attacks (claw, bite, and so forth) of any form they assume with wild shape (see below).
Druids are proficient with light and medium armor but are prohibited from wearing metal armor; thus, they may wear only padded, leather, or hide armor. (A druid may also wear wooden armor that has been altered by the ironwood spell so that it functions as though it were steel. See the ironwood spell description) Druids are proficient with shields (except tower shields) but must use only wooden ones.
A druid who wears prohibited armor or carries a prohibited shield is unable to cast druid spells or use any of her supernatural or spell-like class abilities while doing so and for 24 hours thereafter.
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Eh, the real reason he never casts Ranger spells is because he's got a Wisdom less than 11.
Many of the things he does are... not very wise.
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The 3.0 version of Drizzt, while mediocre, does have access to ranger spells- but only very low level ones, since he's mostly fighter with ranger levels (and 1 barbarian level).
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:( Too bad Mielikki doesn't allow heavy armor for some reason.
Adamantine Warforged Druid of Mielikki who wildshapes into a dinosaur would be so cool.
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Transforming construct animals who breathe fire anyone?