Arcane full caster PrCs with good BAB

[Darklord Xavez]

Besides the Abjurant Champion, of course. Preferably 5 level.
-Xavez

[Saph]

As far as I know, there aren't any.

[Eldariel]

Indeed. Best you can get is 1st level of classes that grant both like Spellsword, Draconic Whatever, Bladesinger and so on.

[Machiavellian]

Knight Phantom and Eldritch Knight

[Eldariel]

Knight Phantom and Eldritch Knight

Both lose CL on the first level.

[Machiavellian]

Both lose CL on the first level.

Thats the best you can get. Other than Abj Champ

[the humanity]

Fochluchan Lyrist. does divine too.

that's about it really.

[dextercorvia]

Sacred Exorcist get's you average BAB and Turn Undead. There are a lot of neat things a gish can do with Turn Undead: Travel Devotion, Knowledge Devotion, and Divine Might come to mind.

[sofawall]

Thats the best you can get. Other than Abj Champ

Well, a ton of dips can be better, but I see where you're coming from.

[Boci]

Knowledge Devotion

Doesn't require turn undead.

[Optimystik]

Is losing 1 CL that big a deal? Just go with Eldritch Knight.

[Mastikator]

Both lose CL on the first level.

Wouldn't full casting AND full BAB be a little overkill? The EK even gets a bonus feat.

[Darrin]

Indeed. Best you can get is 1st level of classes that grant both like Spellsword, Draconic Whatever, Bladesinger and so on.

There's also Thrall of Demogorgon and Thrall of Orcus, +1 BAB and +1 CL at 1st level, but there's the whole "sacrifice a whatsit/sell your soul to a demon lord" thingy to weasel your way around.

[Akal Saris]

+1 CL/+1 BAB besides Abjurant Champion:
1 level of Spellsword, 1 level of Dragonslayer, 1 level of Thrall of Demogorgon/Orcus, 1 level of Bladesinger

Bladesinger is prohibitively difficult to enter, but spellsword and dragonslayer aren't that awful, especially if you can get Iron will from an otyugh hole. Afterwards Knight Phantom is probably the best choice, or Jade Phoenix Mage if you have some ToB classes.

[sofawall]

Wouldn't full casting AND full BAB be a little overkill? The EK even gets a bonus feat.

Well, considering you have to lose a caster level (theoretically) to enter the class, Eldritch Knight has 2 lost caster levels for a fighter bonus feat and full BAB. Maybe worth is for a wizard gish, almost never worth it for a non-kobold sorcerer.

[Eldariel]

+1 CL/+1 BAB besides Abjurant Champion:
1 level of Spellsword, 1 level of Dragonslayer, 1 level of Thrall of Demogorgon/Orcus, 1 level of Bladesinger

Bladesinger is prohibitively difficult to enter, but spellsword and dragonslayer aren't that awful, especially if you can get Iron will from an otyugh hole. Afterwards Knight Phantom is probably the best choice, or Jade Phoenix Mage if you have some ToB classes.

That or Sacred Exorcist giving up BAB instead of casting, or Swiftblade for goodies ability-wise but with even more casting levels lost.

[Mystic Muse]

Knight Phantom

what books are this and Abjurant champion from?

[dextercorvia]

Doesn't require turn undead.

Good call. I don't know why I lumped that in there. It is good for a gish with the right skill list.

[Boci]

what books are this and Abjurant champion from?

Abjurant champion? Complete mage.

Phantom knight? I think its 5 nations, an eberrn books, also available on wizards.com.

[Mystic Muse]

Abjurant champion? Complete mage.

Phantom knight? I think its 5 nations, an eberrn books, also available on wizards.com.

Darn. Don't have either. Ah well.

[Dusk Eclipse]

what books are this and Abjurant champion from?

Knight Phantom is from 5 Nations (Eberron) and online
Abjurant Champion is from complete mage

Edit: Swordsage'd but at least I got the link

[ryzouken]

I say they go 10 levels of Rainbow Servant and cast Divine Power. Bonus points if they grab a level of Master of Radiance or Sacred Exorcist and Divine Metamagic: Persistify it.

Full (ish) casting and full BAB.

[gallagher]

ok, i got your answer
Step 1: Be a wizard
Step B: Research an arcane spell similar to Divine Strength or Righteous might, i forget which is the one that gives you BAB congruent to your HD, but it will be a 4th or 5th level spell
Step III: ???
Part Quatre: Prophet

Edit: Swordsage'd... kinda. isnt rainbow servant divine? he asked for an arcane caster

[Godskook]

ok, i got your answer
Step 1: Be a wizard
Step B: Research an arcane spell similar to Divine Strength or Righteous might, i forget which is the one that gives you BAB congruent to your HD, but it will be a 4th or 5th level spell
Step III: ???
Part Quatre: Prophet

Edit: Swordsage'd... kinda. isnt rainbow servant divine? he asked for an arcane caster

Alternate Route: Arcane Disciple(War) gets you there with out any of that 'sticky' DM approval independent research has.

[Draz74]

isnt rainbow servant divine? he asked for an arcane caster

Nope, you're thinking of Radiant Servant of Pelor, which is a completely separate PrC.

[Critical]

http://brilliantgameologists.com/boa...p?topic=7230.0

[Thurbane]

Ruathar is BAB +2 for 3 levels, and full casting. Not full BAB, but pretty close...

[Endarire]

+1 BAB and Caster Level

[sofawall]

+1 BAB and Caster Level

Ninja'd by ~6 hours.

[Akal Saris]

Also on the topic of gishes: the Militia feat from Player's Guide to Faerun grants proficiency in all martial weapons. Very handy for qualifying for Knight Phantom and similar PrCs without losing a caster level.