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    Default [3.5] A question of RAW and Logic

    If I have a negative strength modifier to my damage with melee weapons do I do less damage with a two handed weapon? (Let's say I have a STR mod of -2, so my damage is xDx-2 with a one handed weapon. If I hold that weapon in two hands would RAW have me doing xDx-3?)

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    Default Re: [3.5] A question of RAW and Logic

    I believe RAW states that the bonus is multiplied by 1.5.

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    Default Re: [3.5] A question of RAW and Logic

    Odd coincidence.
    When you hit with a melee or thrown weapon, including a sling, add your Strength modifier to the damage result.
    When you deal damage with a weapon that you are wielding two-handed, you add 1½ times your Strength bonus.
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    Default Re: [3.5] A question of RAW and Logic

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikasei View Post
    Lol. that is kinda of an odd coincidence. And I'm glad to know that the penalty isn't multiplied. But now the question arises of whether it is negated by using two hands or just left alone. One could argue that since using a two handed weapon (or one handed in two hands) only adds a bonus that the STR penalty is gone. Which would make logical sense as well.
    EDIT: Wait a second, did we just find a case where RAW supports logic?
    Last edited by Ishcumbeebeeda; 2010-06-03 at 02:33 PM.

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    I think you're stuck with sucking. As someone who has a negative Str modifier IRL (curse you, oh comfortable couch!), and occasionally plays around with practice weapons against people who actually work out, I can tell you that putting an extra hand on the hilt of a sword or a grip of a staff doesn't change the fact that I just don't hit very hard when I take a swing at someone.
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    Default Re: [3.5] A question of RAW and Logic

    Quote Originally Posted by Ishcumbeebeeda View Post
    Lol. that is kinda of an odd coincidence. And I'm glad to know that the penalty isn't multiplied. But now the question arises of whether it is negated by using two hands or just left alone. One could argue that since using a two handed weapon (or one handed in two hands) only adds a bonus that the STR penalty is gone. Which would make logical sense as well.
    EDIT: Wait a second, did we just find a case where RAW supports logic?
    Banish the thought. RAW doesn't say you can get rid of the penalty by two-handing a weapon.
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    Default Re: [3.5] A question of RAW and Logic

    You're still hitting with a melee weapon, so the penalty is there. You just don't multiply that penalty, because you'd only multiply it if it were a bonus.

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    Default Re: [3.5] A question of RAW and Logic

    Quote Originally Posted by JaronK View Post
    You're still hitting with a melee weapon, so the penalty is there. You just don't multiply that penalty, because you'd only multiply it if it were a bonus.

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    No. Abandon all hope, ye who enter into rules land!

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