Natural Armored

[Lev]

Without using spells, whats the best natural armor you can muster with the least non characterlevel LA?
I've been playing around with lizardman1 ____5 Thayan Gladiator# with feats from lords of madness that add +1 natAC for every 2 feats you use off a list of about 8-10 feats and by ECL9-10 it hits a respectable 8 natAC and bonuses like 10' natural weapon reach, cold resistance and having wings that can fly.

Advice?

[Eldariel]

Wildshape/Alter Self/Polymorph/Shapechange. Your native form doesn't matter. Alter Self into Trogdolyte gives any Wizard 6 NA on level 3, and that's the Core Humanoid option. It only gets better from there. Crucian [Miniatures Handbook] = 8 NA, again on level 3. Tren [Serpent Kingdoms] too and Phaerlock [Underdark] is 7.

Ravid is an SRD form for +15 Natural Armor if you play Tiefling/Aasimar/another Outsider. ECL 4 (accounting for 1 point of LA).

[sonofzeal]

"Improved Natural Armor" boosts NA by one each, and stacks.


Kobold Generic.Arcanist 1 / Generic.Divinist 1 / Generic.Expert 2 / Generic.Warrior 6 with two flaws has NA +13 by ECL 10.

[Runestar]

Instead of taking the NA feats, consider the abyssmal heritor feats in fiendish codex. 2 feats grant +2NA and possibly another benefit (such as a bonus on natural attacks or insight bonuses) at the expense of skill penalties. Marginally better than straight +1NA per feat, IMO.

[Aeromyre]

MY Warforged paladin gets a free armor feat at creation, i chose adamantine plating NA+8 and DR-5
plus i am immune to almost everything but criticals cold and fire

[Eldariel]

MY Warforged paladin gets a free armor feat at creation, i chose adamantine plating NA+8 and DR-5
plus i am immune to almost everything but criticals cold and fire

Actually, Adamantine Plating acts as an Armor, so you have Armor +8; the same as a Fullplate. And the DR is 2/Adamantine, not 5. Though with Thick-Skinned, you can ramp it up at 2 per feat, or with Roll With It at 2/- per feat, but that requires Toughness and 20 Con.

[Aeromyre]

Actually, Adamantine Plating acts as an Armor, so you have Armor +8; the same as a Fullplate. And the DR is 2/Adamantine, not 5. Though with Thick-Skinned, you can ramp it up at 2 per feat, or with Roll With It at 2/- per feat, but that requires Toughness and 20 Con.

It is natural armor but you can't take it off, so technically it's like having full plate on 24/7 as if melded with our skin.
Been a while since i played with my WF i'll have to look at the DR

[Eldariel]

It is natural armor but you can't take it off, so technically it's like having full plate on 24/7 as if melded with our skin.
Been a while since i played with my WF i'll have to look at the DR

It grants Armor-bonus was my point; it is not Natural Armor bonus but Armor-bonus like all Warforged plates. Yes, you can't take it off, but you can't benefit from e.g. Mage Armor either.

[Aeromyre]

It grants Armor-bonus was my point; it is not Natural Armor bonus but Armor-bonus like all Warforged plates. Yes, you can't take it off, but you can't benefit from e.g. Mage Armor either.

Oh damn :( that's upsetting

[Lev]

Oh damn :( that's upsetting

But you can still use a shield.

[Tavar]

There's one soulmeld that gives NA as well.

[Aeromyre]

But you can still use a shield.

and i in fact do :D I have a +3 Magic Tower Shield my AC is 23 i believe
I'm also a Kensai so i may enchant my weapon to be defending.

[Lev]

and i in fact do :D I have a +3 Magic Tower Shield my AC is 23 i believe
I'm also a Kensai so i may enchant my weapon to be defending.

I recommend taking a few levels in fighter and taking the dungeon crasher feat from dungeonscape.

[Aeromyre]

I recommend taking a few levels in fighter and taking the dungeon crasher feat from dungeonscape.

Wow I just read that and that is really good, i might do that 4d6 +3 is pretty good damage,

[Marriclay]

Wow I just read that and that is really good, i might do that 4d6 +3 is pretty good damage,

don't forget you can enchant the adamantine plates! you may not be able to double up bonuses, but you can get your warforged to sit in a lab with a wizard for a few days while he improves your armor

[Aeromyre]

don't forget you can enchant the adamantine plates! you may not be able to double up bonuses, but you can get your warforged to sit in a lab with a wizard for a few days while he improves your armor

Really? That sounds like a plan!
My sorcerer NPC has craft magical arms and armor

I hardly play as a player anymore i always DM, so there's no telling if I'll ever touch good ol Galordon again

Here's a picture i drew of him when i was new to drawing
http://rad-master-rhett.deviantart.c...lery/#/d2auzs8

[Lev]

Really? That sounds like a plan!
My sorcerer NPC has craft magical arms and armor

I hardly play as a player anymore i always DM, so there's no telling if I'll ever touch good ol Galordon again

Here's a picture i drew of him when i was new to drawing
http://rad-master-rhett.deviantart.c...lery/#/d2auzs8

I really like his shape, but I'd prefer him to have a Jian =]

[Aeromyre]

I really like his shape, but I'd prefer him to have a Jian =]

Yeah that would be really cool
He is actually a longsword Specialist though :( and i can't switch my favored weapon, maybe i could convince my DM the jian is a variant of the longsword

[Lev]

Or you could just re-write your character.

Personally I wouldn't ever let any of my players make a euro longsword proficiency effect an asian straightsword in a 1:1 ratio, especially because your character is built for tai chi sword, not kung fu sword.

But seriously, your character's shape is almost 100% perfect for maximum tai chi power... so much stability and awesome power comes out of that body ratio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSnUDkCQ0WU