Small and Smart? (3.5)

[OMG PONIES]

Straightforward question: are there any small (or smaller) races that give a bonus to INT?

I've got a factotum/wizard based loosely on Winston Wolfe from Pulp Fiction, but I'm trying to make him as small as possible for some stealth bonuses. If no good races are available, I'm pretty set on playing him as a Whisper Gnome, but I'd like to see what's out there.

[Rannil]

Tinker gnomes from the Dragonlance setting. Also no LA.

And Pixies! Lots of LA though.

[Greenish]

Petal is tiny fey at +2 LA, but is listed as cohort only.

Kobolds are small, and with their Slight Build racial count as one size smaller when it's beneficial for them.

[OMG PONIES]

Would Slight Build count when it comes to, say, size bonuses to Hide?

[Greenish]

Would Slight Build count when it comes to, say, size bonuses to Hide?

Slight Build: The physical stature of kobolds lets them function in many ways as if they were one size category smaller. Whenever a kobold is subject to a size modifier or special size modifier for an opposed check (such as Hide), the kobold is treated as one size smaller if doing so is advantageous to the character. A kobold is also considered to be one size smaller when "squeezing" through a restrictive space. A kobold can use weapons designed for a creature one size smaller without penalty. However, the space and reach of a kobold remain those of a creature of their actual size. The benefits of this racial trait stack with the effects of powers, abilities, and spells that change the subject's size category.

Races of the Dragon web enhancement.

[Kylarra]

Beguiler! obligatory text

[OMG PONIES]

I've heard whispers of this Beguiler race. Where can I find it?

[Rannil]

I've heard whispers of this Beguiler race. Where can I find it?

Shining South pg 60

It appears to be a rat. Small enough?

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Shamefully I don't have that book.

Also check out this link. Shows stats and stuff.

[Greenish]

It appears to be a rat. Small enough?

Rats are Tiny. Beguiler is just Small.

[Endarire]

Blue.

They should be LA 0 instead. The Expanded Psionics Handbook had them LA0 on a page and LA1 on the next.

[Darrin]

Straightforward question: are there any small (or smaller) races that give a bonus to INT?

Lesser Tiefling (Player's Guide to Faerun): +2 Dex, +2 Int, -2 Cha. Humanoid with Extraplanar subtype.

Savage Progression Drow (WotC online article): +2 Dex, -2 Con, +2 Int. You can just skip/ignore the 2 racial class levels.

Arcane Gnomes from Dragon #291: -2 Str, +2 Con, +2 Int, -2 Wis ,UMD is always a class skill (not exactly a concern for a Factotum), no speak with animals, favored class wizard.

Dragonwrought Kobold can get up to +3 Int based on the age category.

[Fax Celestis]

You could try my kobold.

[Frosty]

Beguilers need to be Lightning-heavy Warmages. *runs*

[Dusk Eclipse]

Beguilers need to be Lightning-heavy Warmages. *runs*

I see what you did there.

[Kylarra]

Beguilers need to be Lightning-heavy Warmages. *runs*

Nah, just conjurer spec'd wizards with eidetic spellcaster.

[Frosty]

They also need Silent Spell as they can't form the right words for magical incantations, what with their limited vocabulary and all (some would call it singular).

[Dusk Eclipse]

They also need Silent Spell as they can't form the right words for magical incantations, what with their limited vocabulary and all (some would call it singular).

CURSE YOU FROSTY now I want to play one....

[Frosty]

CURSE YOU FROSTY now I want to play one....

My work here is done Now remember to diversify...your vocabulary doesn't HAVE to be singular. You can mix it up between "Pea" "Pika" and "Pikachu" and there are all sorts of differeent tones and inflections to use!

I recommend going for the Elemental Savant prestige class.

[LibraryOgre]

Rats are Tiny. Beguiler is just Small.

So they're rodents of unusual size?

Are we sure they exist?

[Dusk Eclipse]

My work here is done Now remember to diversify...your vocabulary doesn't HAVE to be singular. You can mix it up between "Pea" "Pika" and "Pikachu" and there are all sorts of differeent tones and inflections to use!

I recommend going for the Elemental Savant prestige class.

I hate you , you have no idea on how much I hate you

[Greenish]

Nah, just conjurer spec'd wizards with eidetic spellcaster.

Sorcerers with Spell Thematics. Brilliant feat, that.

[KillianHawkeye]

Blue.

They should be LA 0 instead. The Expanded Psionics Handbook had them LA0 on a page and LA1 on the next.

They were errata'd to be LA +1, so the SRD version is "correct" (for certain definitions of correct).

[Frosty]

I hate you , you have no idea on how much I hate you

You should be thanking me! It's your DM who should be hating me

[TurtleKing]

On the Beguiler note what would happen if they touched a thunderstone...?

[Greenish]

They were errata'd to be LA +1, so the SRD version is "correct" (for certain definitions of correct).

Goblins are rather poor even for +0 LA creatures, but give them one(!) power point and BAM! they become +1 LA.

Seriously, blues are more overtaxed than hobgoblins, the posterboys for undeserved LA.

[Frosty]

On the Beguiler note what would happen if they touched a thunderstone...?

Don't do it unless you've learned everything you wanted to learn! It'll become the bigger and slower Rai-guiler!

[KillianHawkeye]

That's why I added that little disclaimer at the end of my post.

[Akal Saris]

If you play a beguiler, keep an eye out for stone dragon crusaders and dwarven defenders. They're Ground-types.

[Thurbane]

Lesser Tiefling (Player's Guide to Faerun): +2 Dex, +2 Int, -2 Cha. Humanoid with Extraplanar subtype.

Savage Progression Drow (WotC online article): +2 Dex, -2 Con, +2 Int. You can just skip/ignore the 2 racial class levels.

...um, aren't these both medium races?

[Mongoose87]

...um, aren't these both medium races?

You're a medium race!