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2010-06-17, 06:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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[3.5] New PCs, Binder and Favoured Soul.
Hey guys, a friend and I are making PCs for a new game, starting at level 1, and we're pretty sure we want to play a Binder and Favoured Soul, so I thought that since my friend hasn't played in years and I've no experience with either, that I'd ask you for advice.
What feats/abilities/vestiges/spells should we be looking at, and are there any point of note about the binder that I might not have picked up on?
I'm probably not going to take any PrCs with my FS, but are there any binder PrCs about? Or any support for binders in other books?
Edit: Ok, just the favoured soul.Last edited by Myou; 2010-06-18 at 07:11 PM.
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2010-06-17, 06:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] New PCs, Binder and Favoured Soul.
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2010-06-17, 12:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-17, 12:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] New PCs, Binder and Favoured Soul.
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2010-06-17, 01:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-17, 01:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-17, 01:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-17, 03:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] New PCs, Binder and Favoured Soul.
The Favored Soul is highly dependent on your choice of god and their favored weapon. A good choice here is Kossuth, a FR fire deity. Kossuth's favored weapon is the spiked chain, so you'll get these bonus feats:
1. Exotic Weapon Proficiency (spiked chain)
3. Weapon Focus (spiked chain)
12. Weapon Specialization (spiked chain)
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2010-06-17, 03:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-17, 03:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] New PCs, Binder and Favoured Soul.
While most of this is already in that handbook, here's a bit for binders:
Take Improved Binding. Don't ask questions, just take it. See what it does. It adds two levels for the purpose of deciding what kind of vestige you can take. That means it allows you to take a second level vestige at level one. Since you are level one, this will be useful your entire campaign.
Also, for prestige classes, take Knight of the Sacred Seal. That is all.
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2010-06-17, 03:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-17, 03:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] New PCs, Binder and Favoured Soul.
Malphas comes highly recommended as a vestige.
Anima Mage is mighty tasty indeed.
As indicated, the formatting is fixed on later pages, by other posters. I think JWO's original post got messed up when gleemax had their massive redesign away from the parchment look.
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2010-06-17, 03:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-17, 09:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] New PCs, Binder and Favoured Soul.
Oooh, Binder and FS...two of my favorite base classes!
When I get a sec, I'll post up all the tips I've garnered for these two, on top of the ever present class guides.
Oh, and my own mini-handbook for Favored Soul, work in progress: [3.5] Favored Soul tips, tricks and general discussion
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2010-06-18, 02:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-18, 07:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] New PCs, Binder and Favoured Soul.
Nitpick: some still have special requirements that you have to meet, so it isn't always automatic. (There is a feat to get around this though.)
It says it adds two in my ToM. Where it starts messing you up is Binder 6 onward (where you start needing 3 levels to get to the next vestige instead of two), and Binder 17 (where the feat no longer has a benefit.)
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2010-06-18, 09:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] New PCs, Binder and Favoured Soul.
You're mixing up Improved Binding and Improved Bind Vestige.
Improved Binding is for an actual Binder, and increases the effective EBL for the purposes of determining the highest-level Vestige he can bind by 2. This means a Binder 1 can bind 2nd level Vestiges (which normally require Binder 3). At 17 or 18, IIRC, it becomes useless because you already have the highest level Vestiges (8th) even without the feat.
Improved Bind Vestige does nothing for Binders, it's for folks with the Bind Vestige feat, allowing you to bind Vestiges up to 3rd level (as a 5th level Binder). It is not EBL +4, it is EBL = 5 for the very limited purposes of the Bind Vestige feat.Last edited by DragoonWraith; 2010-06-18 at 07:12 PM.
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2010-06-18, 07:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5] New PCs, Binder and Favoured Soul.
Well, it's a real shame, my friend has decided not to play a binder after all. I was really eager to see how the class worked out, but instead he's going for a fullmetal alchemist base class he's been working on.
I'm still eager to play a favoured soul, so let's focus on that. :3