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    Default Strong and Charismatic? Looking for a 3.5 class

    I'm looking for a class that would allow one to use both Strength and Charisma well, and will work fairly well with +2 LA. Through a combination of templates, I'm getting some melee-friendly abilities and +4 Str, +2 Dex, +2 Con and +4 Cha. The only class I know of that could use these to good effect is a Paladin, but I'm not sure if that's the only one.

    I don't know what level I'd be playing this at, as it'll be one of two character concepts "floating" until I find a game to play them in.
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    Just off the top of my head...

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    Make a knight! They're one-trick ponies, but if you want to be a melee character who focuses on battlefield control, no other mundane character does it better
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    Shneeky's Samurai build makes good use of its CHA.
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    Crusader

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    Default Re: Strong and Charismatic? Looking for a 3.5 class

    Melee favoured soul?

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    Well, there's always favored soul. And the Jacob's Ladder trick to make them basically nightmare fuel...
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    A multiclass Paladin (of Slaughter) / Hexblade would have magnificent saves and epic saves vs spells.

    However, I second the Crusader. If you are not familiar with them, they are found in the Tome of Battle (The Book of Nine Swords). Think of them as the kung-fu bastard love-child of a paladin and a barbarian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadrian_Emrys View Post
    A multiclass Paladin (of Slaughter) / Hexblade would have magnificent saves and epic saves vs spells.
    Not to mention that if you have Paladin of Slaughter 9, taking one level in Blackguard would technically net you loads of extra free stuff while still keeping your Paladin stuff...
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    I don't have ToB, although my local library has it. I'll check it out later.

    I don't have the book with Knight or Favored Soul. I have friends with the second one, though(C. Divine). Is the Knight from Complete Warrior?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PersonMan View Post
    I don't have the book with Knight or Favored Soul. I have friends with the second one, though(C. Divine). Is the Knight from Complete Warrior?
    It is from Player Handbook 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Il_Vec View Post
    It is from Player Handbook 2.
    My absolute favorite 3.5 supplement.

    I agree with Knight. I played one for a few months. He was a freakin' badass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyserpent View Post
    My absolute favorite 3.5 supplement.

    I agree with Knight. I played one for a few months. He was a freakin' badass.
    personally, I liked my last Half-Ogre knight. he was a battlefield controller because of all his, you know, battlefield control abilities. And he had the most wonderful backstory...
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    What race/templates are you sporting? Also, are those traits mutable, or a limiting factor when giving build advice?
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    If anything, the term should be What Would Toho Do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PersonMan View Post
    I don't have ToB, although my local library has it. I'll check it out later.
    What an awesome library. The most my library has ever had in the way of DnD is some decade old copies of dungeon magazine.

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    I'm going to add my voice on the Knight. I just don't think they get enough love, honestly, and they are fun. In games I've GM'd, a player as a Knight has ended up being an all-star on the squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadrian_Emrys View Post
    What race/templates are you sporting? Also, are those traits mutable, or a limiting factor when giving build advice?
    Modified Half-vampire and draconic. These are fairly mutable, but I'd like to keep the general flavor of a character with both undead and dragon ancestors.
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    +1 to binder and crusader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenish View Post
    +1 to binder and crusader.
    I'm going to dump some XP and gold to make that a +2. Binders can turn into a nice blender with the natural attack-based vestiges or go with a whole load of penalties and one save or X vestige.
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    Default Re: Strong and Charismatic? Looking for a 3.5 class

    ... +1 from draconic, and +2 from half vamp. I take it that the modification took away a few goodies to drop the LA? Do your character's base race, type of undead decent, and type of dragon decent matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadrian_Emrys View Post
    ... +1 from draconic, and +2 from half vamp. I take it that the modification took away a few goodies to drop the LA? Do your character's base race, type of undead decent, and type of dragon decent matter?
    Yep. I haven't cleared it yet, but I think that getting rid of the blood drain, charming gaze and slam attack should lower the LA to +1.

    Base race...ehh, it doesn't matter all that much, as long as it doesn't have more LA.
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    Melee favoured soul?
    +1, just dump Str and still end up with 18 via Divine Power. Sacred Exorcist will let you persist it.

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    I'm also fond of the Keeerniggit.

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