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Thread: Lycanthropy and Wildshape
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2010-06-27, 09:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Lycanthropy and Wildshape
I'm not sure how these two abilities interact, if at all. Do the benefits (abilitie adjustments, natural armor) stack, or overlap? Do the forms "stack"? Can an afflicted lycanthrope wildshape into a different form, and does doing so end the lycanthropic transformation?
For example, if a druid were to wildshape into a bear, and then the full moon rises, and he unwillingly transforms into one of his were-forms... is he a bearē? In lieu of a save, can he use wildshape to end the unwilling transformation?
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2010-06-27, 09:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lycanthropy and Wildshape
They probably don't stack. Pick one over the other and if you can't choose not to become a werething, you become the werething in lieu of wildshape.
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2010-06-27, 09:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lycanthropy and Wildshape
This makes me think you could potentially become an omniwere in a similar way, being able to take on hybrid forms of any animal.
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2010-06-27, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-27, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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- May 2006
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- Sunnydale
Re: Lycanthropy and Wildshape
They interact by the lycanthropy preventing wild shape, ever again.
Wild Shape (Su)
At 5th level, a druid gains the ability to turn herself into any Small or Medium animal and back again once per day. ... This ability functions like the alternate form special ability, except as noted here.A creature cannot use alternate form to take the form of a creature with a template.
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2010-06-27, 12:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lycanthropy and Wildshape
Wild Shape doesn't require you to be able to turn into yourself. It gives you that ability.
Also the "except as noted here" part supersedes the general Alternate Form rules anyway. Specific trumps general and all that.
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2010-06-27, 01:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lycanthropy and Wildshape
Alternate form doesn't let you turn into a creature with a template, however you already have a template so your not turning into one.
Otherwise Lycanthropes wouldn't function because they use alternate form and are also a template.
By turn into a creature with a template they mean like a celestial bear, or a half-dragon T-Rex. The same restriction you find on polymorph and such.
A druid turning into a bear is using wild shape, a druid turning back into himself is dismissing wildshape.
Lycanthropy and wildshape both use the alternate form formula. A creature with alternate form can only take on one shape at a time. The same would apply here.