No SR, no save, no attack roll?

[Morph Bark]

Are there any spells that don't allow for SR or saves and do not require an attack roll, but are still offensive in some way?

If so, what are they and what's their source?

[jokey665]

I don't know of any spells, but I know of a Power like that.

[Morph Bark]

I don't know of any spells, but I know of a Power like that.

Powers work too.

It's simply about the principle, really. I'm trying to figure out some things for an NPC and this factors in heavily.

[Critical]

Benign Transpostition while flying over opponents head with your largest and heaviest party member as the target.

[Eurus]

I don't know of any spells, but I know of a Power like that.

...Wow. I always thought that was reflex half. Why on earth isn't it reflex half?

That said... summoning might arguably qualify for what you're asking.

[Critical]

...Wow. I always thought that was reflex half. Why on earth isn't it reflex half?

These razorlike crystals slice everything in their path.

That's why.

[PId6]

Love's Pain, from BoVD. It doesn't allow SR/saves on the person it damages, and there's no limit on the distance between the two of you. Just Mindrape someone to be the lover, and long distance nuke away.

[taltamir]

Benign Transpostition while flying over opponents head with your largest and heaviest party member as the target.

requires that the people to be switched both be touch the ground, or in contact with each other via a rope, etc.

Also, why wouldn't it require an attack roll? you are trying to hit object A with object B...

BTW, using shrink item on boulders is easier.

Love's Pain, from BoVD. It doesn't allow SR/saves on the person it damages, and there's no limit on the distance between the two of you. Just Mindrape someone to be the lover, and long distance nuke away.

to explain further.
Love's pain is a spell that is cast on Person A, who loves person B. Casting it on person A harms person B, no saves, no distance limits, no nothing. Just damage.
Mindrape makes you know everything that the target knows and everything about them, and rewrite their memories, skill, personality, etc as you wish. Find a random peasant, cast mindrape on them to love the target you wish kill, then cast love's pain said peasant. If you are nice, follow it by casting mindrape again to make them forget it ever happened and stop loving that person.

[balistafreak]

...Wow. I always thought that was reflex half. Why on earth isn't it reflex half?

The damage output is comparable to Burning Hands, but it's less efficient than Burning Hands assuming the enemy fails his save (on Burning Hands, that is).

Burning Hands can deal 5d4 damage max, for a 1st level slot, aka 1 PP.

This only ever deals 3d4 for 3 PP, kind of like a 2nd level slot.

If it had a "Reflex halves" clause, it would suck. A lot.

[CubeB]

Summon Swarm works as well. Warlocks can get it at will at level 1.

[taltamir]

i can't believe noone mentioned force missile mage

[EDIT]The below info is incorrect. FMM only gives a bonus to bypassing SR, and bypasses the protection offered by shield or brooch of shielding. Not those offered by other spells, SR, etc[/edit]

Force missile mage is a PrC that specializes in magic missile. Magic missile is blockable by:
1. SR
2. Shield spell
3. Other spells that specifically block it
4. Spells that block spells under a certain level (such as orb of involnerability)

Well, force missile mage lets you:
1. Bypass all of those with 100% certainty (need a check, I think spellcraft, trivial to ensure you always succeed)
2. lets you choose different types of damage for magic missile. (of little use since nothing is immune to force damage AFAIK)

Basically, you choose a target and it takes damage, there is absolutely nothing it can do to stop it. Maybe counterspell or spell reflection but I think FMM lets you bypass those too... mmm, not sure. Lemme look it up.

[Douglas]

Hail of Stone, from Spell Compendium. As additional points, this spell does untyped damage, hits an area, and is an instantaneous conjuration. It's pretty much the perfect "nothing resists this - no, not even that" spell, with the unfortunate exception of Globe of Invulnerability because it's merely level 1. Heighten Spell can deal with that problem, though. Sadly, its damage caps at 5d4 and it has a 5 gp material component.

[Tinydwarfman]

Benign Transpostition while flying over opponents head with your largest and heaviest party member as the target.

Indeed, as long as said party member is dead.

[PId6]

i can't believe noone mentioned force missile mage

Because it allows SR?

[taltamir]

Because it allows SR?

force missile mage is a PrC that allows your magic missile to bypass SR and anything else that would stop a magic missile.

[PId6]

force missile mage is a PrC that allows your magic missile to bypass SR and anything else that would stop a magic missile.

No it doesn't. It grants +2 to SR checks for Magic Missile; that's it.

[taltamir]

No it doesn't. It grants +2 to SR checks for Magic Missile; that's it.

you are right, I remembered incorrectly...
if anyone interested, google force missile mage, the first result is a pdf with the class description

[Doc Roc]

Spellwarp Sniper + Surge of fortune + SoD of choice?
It depresses me that this combo, while hilariously devastating in most situations, it is vulnerable to miss chances, and a few effects that impede target acquisition. For pure killtasmic action, I recommend the already mentioned Love's Pain + Mindrape combo meal.

Where you mind rape yourself into loving your opponent most.

Yeah....

[taltamir]

Where you mind rape yourself into loving your opponent most.

I hope you mean to say "where you mind rape a random peasant"

[Greenish]

Sadly, its damage caps at 5d4

That's what metamagic is for.

[Flickerdart]

Does Unname offer a save or SR?

[taltamir]

Does Unname offer a save or SR?

i think you mean "word of unmaking" from the truenamer. I believe it offers save or SR. But it is actually quite good in that it erases them from existence. Not even the gods can restore someone you unmake.

[Rothen]

Hail of Stone, from Spell Compendium. As additional points, this spell does untyped damage, hits an area, and is an instantaneous conjuration. It's pretty much the perfect "nothing resists this - no, not even that" spell, with the unfortunate exception of Globe of Invulnerability because it's merely level 1. Heighten Spell can deal with that problem, though. Sadly, its damage caps at 5d4 and it has a 5 gp material component.

Reserves of Strength it up, I'd say. It's a feat from the Dragonlance Campaign Setting, which - due to bad wording - allows you to surpass caps like that.

[Seffbasilisk]

Storm Bolt, reserve feat from Complete Mage.

Does a line, no save, no attack roll, no SR, no AoOs for activating...only thing that stops it is electricity resistance/immunity.

Beautiful for the peasants hiding in the field chucking rocks and mud-globs at the party.

[Flickerdart]

i think you mean "word of unmaking" from the truenamer. I believe it offers save or SR. But it is actually quite good in that it erases them from existence. Not even the gods can restore someone you unmake.

No, if I meant the crummy Word of Unmaking, I'd have said that. I mean Unname, the spell. Page 260.

Unfortunately, it seems to allow both a save and SR. What a crappy 9th level spell.

[Cespenar]

There's a small issue with the Love's Pain/Mindrape combo. You can't manufacture true love.

[Lhurgyof]

Swarm of crystals can be pretty fun. :D

Edit: What's Heat's Treasure Lost, again? The one that destroys their best magic item? Is there any save/sr on that?

[PId6]

There's a small issue with the Love's Pain/Mindrape combo. You can't manufacture true love.

Well good thing the spell doesn't require that then.

It works on closest friend or dearest loved one, so you can just Mindrape away their friends and make your target the only friend they have, and that'd work perfectly fine for Love's Pain purposes.

[Cespenar]

Well good thing the spell doesn't require that then.

It works on closest friend or dearest loved one, so you can just Mindrape away their friends and make your target the only friend they have, and that'd work perfectly fine for Love's Pain purposes.

...

You actually went and wrote up a serious, thought-out answer to that?

[awa]

you could easily argue that their not really their friend they just think that becuase of your magic.