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    Default Can't remember what it's usually called...

    There's a word or phrase for it, that I know I've heard but I can't for the life of me remember...

    What's the name of the unspoken rule where the party adventures together even if one or more members would normally not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IonDragon View Post
    There's a word or phrase for it, that I know I've heard but I can't for the life of me remember...

    What's the name of the unspoken rule where the party adventures together even if one or more members would normally not?
    Taking one for the team? Immersion-breaking?

    I don't know of a true term that means just that, sorry.

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    Metagaming. The good kind.

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    Railroading? :D

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    Rule Number 1: Don't split the party.
    Rule Number 2: DON'T SPLIT THE PARTY!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keld Denar View Post
    Rule Number 1: Don't split the party.
    Rule Number 2: DON'T SPLIT THE PARTY!!!!!
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    While that's helpful, I realize I'm being too vague or maybe it's just something that's not in common use and I saw someone say something to the desired effect once and it almost stuck with me.

    Something like a thesaurus word for agreement or contract maybe... Oh well, guess it was just one of those things someone said once.
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    "Don't Split the Party."

    "The Grand Scheme of Things."

    "The Plot Demands It."

    "DM Fiat."


    Any of those work?
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    "You look like a trustworthy fellow..."
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    party unity?

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    Gentlemens agreement, possibly?
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    Misery loves company?

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    coterie? Although strict definition I don't think it applies.

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    Definition of DMPC:
    1: a character that if it was run by a non-DM would be considered a PC; a special kind of Ally (see p. 104 of the 3.5 DMG)
    2: (derogatory) any character used by a DM that disrupts the game
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    PC halo?

    my group has used this term to describe when characters are supposed to act differently toward another party member because they are players. most often used when meeting new chaarcters for the first time and becoming friends with them a little too easily.

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    It is dangerous to go alone.
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    Keeping your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    Something about Party Cohesion?

    Maybe "magnas componere lites". . . could be what your looking for. . .

    really i'd need more to go off of i'm not sure of the phrase our talking about.
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    "What our party is doing"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IonDragon View Post
    There's a word or phrase for it, that I know I've heard but I can't for the life of me remember...

    What's the name of the unspoken rule where the party adventures together even if one or more members would normally not?
    Hand waving
    Willing suspension of disbelief
    78% of DM's started their first campaign in a tavern. [...]Where did you start yours?
    A street riot in a major city that was getting violent.
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    accord? compact? concord? pact? association? league? concurrence?
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    duress?
    It's one that wouldn't normally do so.
    I say duress or any variation thereupon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IonDragon View Post
    What's the name of the unspoken rule where the party adventures together even if one or more members would normally not?
    The PC Rune.

    We're not together because our characters are friends, or allies, or have the same goal. We're only together because we're both PCs.
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    Social Contract? The stuff that everyone around the table agrees to do, that isn't enforced by the rules of the game. Often includes rules like "no backstabbing", "no stealing", "no evil characters" or "don't be so powerful that no one else gets to do anything".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Escheton View Post
    duress?
    It's one that wouldn't normally do so.
    I say duress or any variation thereupon.
    Well it's not really duress... though our GM apparently thinks it is. And apparently thinks we're on the verge of a bloody interparty conflict.

    Here's why:

    The "party leader" is a Drow who owns 2/5 of the other PCs, and is in a mutually beneficial informal contract with 2/5ths of the other PCs, and the final other PC is a tag along to one of the ones with an informal contract.

    Ion's character is owned, and my character's informal mutually beneficial business proposition is mostly this: treat the kobold well, and I serve you. Treat the kobold poorly, and I eat you.

    Our GM took that to mean the Drow said "I am going to hold the kobold as a hostage against your good behavior." This is a level 1 drow fighter, I am a level 3 lesser asimar druid. The Drow was AFK for one game, and the GM decided to threaten my character into doing some healing at my character's expense. My character looked him in the eye and said "No." The Drow decided to threaten the kobold, and I said, "I think I can take the drow."

    And so that is the story of how our GM is the only person at a 7-person table (6 players, 1 GM) who believes the whole party are slaves. His prediction of a bloody dissent in the party is well off... unless Xune's player decides that she wanted to threaten me with the kobold's life. Then yes, there will be dissent within the party as I go tier1 on that fighter's behind.

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    The Greater Good.

    Even the evil can rationalise that if the end of the world is brought about in some fashion, they won't have anywhere to be evil in. On the other hand, a chaotic good character could adventure with an evil party to prevent the imposition of a totalitarian order that would destroy all freedom and expression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superglucose View Post
    stuff
    looks like your dm has been reading too much nuklear power and books about drow culture. Or is taking the term DM to heart a bit much.

    It makes for interesting situation too take slavery and drow culture into your game to that extend. Unfortunately it is difficult to not metagame your knowledge of lvls. And pc's are not allowed to make intimidatechecks against each other.
    And in stand-offs like that it is also difficult to settle disputes with intense roleplaying, especially when player pride is involved, when it so easy too just waste each other and move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvatarZero View Post
    Social Contract?
    This is close enough.
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    suspension of disbelief?

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    I find it grimly amusing that the the person directly creating player conflict is the DM.

    I have no idea how to safely deal with the situation, but wish you luck.

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