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Thread: 3.5 Pick up item question
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2010-07-09, 11:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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3.5 Pick up item question
Picking up an object causes an Attack of Opportunity.
But, do you have to be standing in the square to pick up the object? Could you, say 5' step out of the square you were in and lean over to pick up a dropped weapon without incurring the AoO?
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2010-07-09, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 3.5 Pick up item question
I think you just have to have the object within your reach. So for most people, an adjacent square should be fine. The SRD doesn't seem to say otherwise.
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2010-07-09, 12:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 3.5 Pick up item question
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2010-07-09, 12:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 3.5 Pick up item question
If I was the DM, I would not allow you to avoid an AoO in this manner. Trying to do this in real life would just force you to get even lower and still put a significant part of your body into the threatened square, making it even easier to hit you.
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2010-07-09, 12:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 3.5 Pick up item question
An object in an adjacent square is on average 1,5m away. Humans can't reach that far.
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2010-07-09, 12:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 3.5 Pick up item question
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2010-07-09, 12:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 3.5 Pick up item question
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2010-07-09, 01:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 3.5 Pick up item question
A caster steps backwards out of reach and stays there. That's completely different to what the OP is attempting, which requires that his upper body be within reach even if his feet aren't.
But then, how do touch attacks work?
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2010-07-09, 01:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 3.5 Pick up item question
I'd let people with the Quick Draw feat use it to do something along those lines.
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2010-07-09, 01:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 3.5 Pick up item question
I was playing Devil's Advocate really, I do think you shouldn't be allowed to avoid an AoO that way.
After all, if it wasn't possible to provoke from 5 ft. away, unarmed strikes without the feat wouldn't do so, but they do.
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2010-07-09, 01:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 3.5 Pick up item question
I'd allow a player to retrieve an item without provoking an AoO with a successful Sleight of Hand check as long as they had a weapon in their other hand that was capable of still threatening the opponent.
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2010-07-09, 02:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 3.5 Pick up item question
the MECHANIC is reaching into an adjacent square after the 5 foot step. But the DESCRIPTION can be a bit different. Explain it as kicking the sword away from your enemy a bit, then darting over and picking it up from it's new location. Same rule, but makes sense when you describe it like that.
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2010-07-09, 02:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 3.5 Pick up item question
I can see myself taking a step further away, then getting an item be more wary.
Mechanically, it makes sense, IRL it makes sense.
If need be, fluff it as reaching to draw it closer with a sword/stick/spear/whathaveyou.
It's when you disregard the person near it as a threat, that you'd get the AoO. If they're standing on top of it (it's in their square), then it makes sense you can't grab it without an AoO. If it's a few feet away, and you're not between them and it? Go for it.Life is a gamble, roll the dice. If your life is like cards, rig the deck.
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2010-07-09, 02:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-07-09, 06:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 3.5 Pick up item question
I think I'd argue that if the square with the fallen item in is threatened by an enemy then any attempt to recover said item from that square would produce an AoO regardless of where the recovery attempt was made from.
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2010-07-09, 10:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 3.5 Pick up item question
I think you'd reach into the square that has the item and thus incur the AoO anyway. Or else you'd have to actually be in the square, and still incur the AoO. Hand-waving it with fluff actions doesn't work IMO b/c those actions are more like move actions or standards than free actions done as part of your step. EDIT: But that's just common sense, I could see RAW saying otherwise.
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