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    Why did you tell me, Now I have to wait more then a week for the next update

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    Judging by Lucrezia's smile, I'd assume that she was bluffing about either the deathtrap, or not being able to deactivate it, although it's hard to fully follow her logic (since Zola would know if it was a bluff...)
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    Judging by Lucrezia's smile, I'd assume that she was bluffing about either the deathtrap, or not being able to deactivate it, although it's hard to fully follow her logic (since Zola would know if it was a bluff...)
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    Remember that she wants to destroy this particular vessel?



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    Remember that she wants to destroy this particular vessel?
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    She might want to kill Zola-copy first so that she keeps all of her information to herself.
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    The Agatha vessel is currently the only one who is both in control and aware that the Zola vessel isn't in control. If Zola escapes and Agatha dies, it leaves the Lucrezia Collective unaware that all their secrets are known by a rival/enemy (the definition of that term is "a free-willed creature").
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    could some one please tell me how to get to the snaky gates :(

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    Go the latest comic. Right click on the comic image and select 'copy image location' or something similar. Paste this into your url.
    Adjust the dates by 2 or 3 days and press enter.
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    So... now that Zola managed to outwit the main villain, steal all of her secrets and escape while the everyone else is left behind in a deathtrap... do people still think Zola is incompetent?

    Really the only thing she has to learn is to stop taking the time to gloat... Things would have gone a LOT smoother and leave less chance to failure... If she didn't take the time to gloat to lucrezia, she could have fooled her into thinking that everything was going according to plan and then willingly commit suicide to kill agatha; never knowing that the information she was trying to send will never get their and that all her secrets are in the hands of a rival... Hell and any would-be heroes (Tarvek) would have a had time keeping Lucrezia from killing herself.

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    So... now that Zola managed to outwit the main villain, steal all of her secrets and escape while the everyone else is left behind in a deathtrap... do people still think Zola is incompetent?
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    Well, she DID take the marshmallow gun with her. I love that Lucrezia invented a marshmallow gun, by the way.
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    Well, she DID take the marshmallow gun with her. I love that Lucrezia invented a marshmallow gun, by the way.
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    Well, she DID take the marshmallow gun with her. I love that Lucrezia invented a marshmallow gun, by the way.
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    Either it shoots marshmallows at other stuff, or it will only fire upon marshmallows. I can actually think of a use for the latter! Apart from the obvious, of course (mmm... s'mores...).

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    Well, she DID take the marshmallow gun with her. I love that Lucrezia invented a marshmallow gun, by the way.
    Well, unless she has a reason for it...
    Afterall, as Tarvek pointed out, she didn't even TRY to shoot them before leaving... so she may know it's a marshmallow gun... but she may know what she can use it for

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    hmmm... So, now it's Lucy's turn to say This. Was. Not. My. Plan!

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    Link.

    ...wow. Lucrezia talks fast.

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    Lucreziagatha knew this was a marshmallow gun, but Tarvek did not.
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    You know, throughout the comic I've found most of its villains to be scary, funny, dangerous or at least a little worthy of respect. I just can't muster any of these for Zola, no matter what she does. At best, I'm apathetic toward her, while most of the time it's just mild irritation at her continued existence.
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    OK, several comments.

    Lucrezia had all that time between when she sucker punched Zola unconscious, and the Pink One woke, and she never once LOOKED UP or wondered how all these people got into her lab? Watta moroon.

    Where IS Zola getting all these devices, Lucrezia claimed she'd strip searched her! (But yeah, I thought she might do that. The assassin in Strumhalten had a similar gizmo.)

    That Lucrezia had her lab set up with a death trap, would argue against her having actually converted to the side of Good. On the other hand, as we saw with Klaus, she's got a 'different' idea of what being a good guy entails.

    The only way I can see Zola going for the marshmallow gun as being logical is she grabbed the concept "Nearest gun" out of Lucrezia's mind, and lept for it before she realized it was a toy. Either that or she thinks she can put something in it instead of marshmallows to make it dangerous.

    Tarvek's got the hand gun. Why didn't HE shoot ZOLA before she got away? Or at least shoot the cable so she couldn't? Nobody except Zola is impressing me with their intelligence, here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    OK, several comments.

    Lucrezia had all that time between when she sucker punched Zola unconscious, and the Pink One woke, and she never once LOOKED UP or wondered how all these people got into her lab? Watta moroon.

    Where IS Zola getting all these devices, Lucrezia claimed she'd strip searched her! (But yeah, I thought she might do that. The assassin in Strumhalten had a similar gizmo.)

    That Lucrezia had her lab set up with a death trap, would argue against her having actually converted to the side of Good. On the other hand, as we saw with Klaus, she's got a 'different' idea of what being a good guy entails.

    The only way I can see Zola going for the marshmallow gun as being logical is she grabbed the concept "Nearest gun" out of Lucrezia's mind, and lept for it before she realized it was a toy. Either that or she thinks she can put something in it instead of marshmallows to make it dangerous.

    Tarvek's got the hand gun. Why didn't HE shoot ZOLA before she got away? Or at least shoot the cable so she couldn't? Nobody except Zola is impressing me with their intelligence, here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    Lucrezia had all that time between when she sucker punched Zola unconscious, and the Pink One woke, and she never once LOOKED UP or wondered how all these people got into her lab? Watta moroon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    Where IS Zola getting all these devices, Lucrezia claimed she'd strip searched her! (But yeah, I thought she might do that. The assassin in Strumhalten had a similar gizmo.)
    Yeah, and she hasn't since been freed and did not have had the time to grab her gear back.

    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    The only way I can see Zola going for the marshmallow gun as being logical is she grabbed the concept "Nearest gun" out of Lucrezia's mind, and lept for it before she realized it was a toy. Either that or she thinks she can put something in it instead of marshmallows to make it dangerous.
    It's a big, threatening-looking gun. It can always be useful even if just for show.

    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    Tarvek's got the hand gun. Why didn't HE shoot ZOLA before she got away? Or at least shoot the cable so she couldn't? Nobody except Zola is impressing me with their intelligence, here.
    He doesn't necessarily want to kill her; and shooting a cable is not that easy. Did Tarvek exhibit any proof of marksmanship? He seems to be more trained in hand-to-hand combat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revlid View Post
    You know, throughout the comic I've found most of its villains to be scary, funny, dangerous or at least a little worthy of respect. I just can't muster any of these for Zola, no matter what she does. At best, I'm apathetic toward her, while most of the time it's just mild irritation at her continued existence.
    So Zola, with Lucrezia in her, thinks faster & can outsmart Lucrezia (with Agatha in her)? Is she now the new supervillian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    OK, several comments.

    Lucrezia had all that time between when she sucker punched Zola unconscious, and the Pink One woke, and she never once LOOKED UP or wondered how all these people got into her lab? Watta moroon.
    Well that lab DOES have normal entrances... pretty easy to conclude that they would use those... especially since the giant hole in the ceiling required a death ray capable of putting holes in the side of a mountain to make

    Where IS Zola getting all these devices, Lucrezia claimed she'd strip searched her! (But yeah, I thought she might do that. The assassin in Strumhalten had a similar gizmo.)
    Zola knows EVERYTHING Lucrezia knows... which would include where she put all of her stuff

    And we know that smoke knights are REALLY FAST

    That Lucrezia had her lab set up with a death trap, would argue against her having actually converted to the side of Good. On the other hand, as we saw with Klaus, she's got a 'different' idea of what being a good guy entails.
    Well ya the conversion could have been a lie...
    afterall we also have her experiments on the muse, and der kestle...

    Though death traps are still good idea to have when experiments run loose and you need to contain/destroy them...

    Tarvek's got the hand gun. Why didn't HE shoot ZOLA before she got away? Or at least shoot the cable so she couldn't? Nobody except Zola is impressing me with their intelligence, here.
    Tarvek isn't exactly out to KILL Zola, or make sure she DIES with them...
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    Well this makes it look more like Zola was the one who made the world that the Future Othar saw.

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    *This* was the mind that terrifled Europe for a generation?

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    Zeetha and Higgs are up there, lets see how that marshmallow gun works against them. Unless Higgs is with Zola.

    Why would Evil Lucrezia make a big gun that shoots marshmallows? It's probably like those goop ball guns in The Incredibles, meant to incapacitate the target with stickiness rather than kill. Knowing Zola, she'll put something like the green goop monsters from Sturmhalten in there.

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    Zeetha and Higgs are up there, lets see how that marshmallow gun works against them. Unless Higgs is with Zola..
    Unless Zola has used that gun as bomb material.

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    Man it took me forever to find how to spell Sturmhalten, I kept trying to put the 'r' before the 'u'.
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    Sturmhalten is pretty much Stormhold, isn't it? Storm is Sturm with just one letter of difference, and halten is a bit further removed from hold but it's still quite blatant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gez View Post
    Sturmhalten is pretty much Stormhold, isn't it? Storm is Sturm with just one letter of difference, and halten is a bit further removed from hold but it's still quite blatant.
    The Storm word is indeed similar amongst many languages, I know it in three versions: Storm, Sturm, Sztorm.

    But "halt" and "hold"? I honestly believe it is purely incidental.

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    The Storm word is indeed similar amongst many languages, I know it in three versions: Storm, Sturm, Sztorm.

    But "halt" and "hold"? I honestly believe it is purely incidental.
    Halt was used in older versions of english to mean crippled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guciek View Post
    The Storm word is indeed similar amongst many languages, I know it in three versions: Storm, Sturm, Sztorm.

    But "halt" and "hold"? I honestly believe it is purely incidental.
    Etymology is not coincidence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gez View Post
    Etymology is not coincidence!

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