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    I want to make a lich archaeologist for my pcs to run into while there exploring an ancient tomb of a hero i want him to to at first look human to hide that hes a lich and be all happy go lucky friendly with them till they find the big maguffin in the at the end, then go total ******* I'm gunna kill you all and take, he is also going to the father to one the pcs cause he said that his char never knew her father and that I can manipulate that any way I see fit, so give me some ideas class wise plz thank you ahead of time.

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    stay alive for a few thousand years and then when you start to do archelogy you know everything about what you find because you lived through it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeletor View Post
    stay alive for a few thousand years and then when you start to do archelogy you know everything about what you find because you lived through it!
    I meant class wise but thats kinda what this guy did.

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    Archivist ?
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    Archivist ?
    needs to be more Indiana Jones ish

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    Have him be a bard. That's close enough, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malificus View Post
    Have him be a bard. That's close enough, right?
    yeah but i need him to be an actual threat not just a bard

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    Gesalt Wizard/Rogue?

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    Take a look at the Loredelver from Races of destiny you can modify it to suit your character I think!

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    yeah but i need him to be an actual threat not just a bard
    sublime chord then?

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    Rogue 3/Wizard 5/Arcane Trickster 3 with Practiced Spellcaster - if you're looking for bare minimum lich requirements. Voila, you have a lich, and it has Indiana Jones skills.


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    Tainted Scholar or Primal Scholar? Both would lend him a reasonable amount of power and explain perhaps about the macguffin he's searching for.

    Or if you want to get hardcore:

    Wizard 3/Tainted Scholar 2/Incantatrix 10/Halruuan Elder 4/Loremaster 1
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    Archivist with a Factotum dip would suit a knowledge seeking lich with a bit of Indiana Jones to it, especially as it gives him all skills as class skills, allowing him to use his skill points to achieve a lot of different things. Mechanically, it's probably not that useful though

    Walker in the Waste might also fit or can be refluffed to fit as well. It's in Sandstorm and at 10th level of it, you become a dry lich.
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    Well this morning my cousin called and since he used to be my old dm back when i was little, he said that if i wanted him to be Indiana Jones i could go duskblade focusing on using combat expertise feat tree he also reminded me that he wasn't sure a duskblade could be a lich but he also reminded me HEY YOUR THE DM SOMETIMES FOR A COOL PLOT TWIST YOU NEED TO BEND THE RULES, so what do you think of that idea?

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    Tsk tsk.

    I can't believe you all let this thread go this far without mentioning he should be called Shindeankle Bones.

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    You could use a Dread Necromancer. It have knowledge skills and they can wear armor and weild one martial weapon, that would completely cover the fact that he is a spell caster. I wouldn't get too hung up on the actual skills, you can cover that with roleplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wings of Peace View Post
    Tainted Scholar or Primal Scholar? Both would lend him a reasonable amount of power and explain perhaps about the macguffin he's searching for.

    Or if you want to get hardcore:

    Wizard 3/Tainted Scholar 2/Incantatrix 10/Halruuan Elder 4/Loremaster 1
    the macguffins part of an ancient heros equipment, hes looking for it so his boss can use it to do an ancient ritual to unseal a gate so he become one with true darkness and pretty much become a god

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    As an addition to my earlier post, you could take the Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Whip) feat, as well as taking the Whip Climber skill trick from Complete Scoundrel.


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    Me: Which makes us so much cooler.

    Player: Where are the babau in relation to everyone else?
    Me: They're right behind you. Vesil is covered in Loki's blood. That is their location in relation to you.
    Player: I was just wondering about a fireball.

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    Mr. Period and Mrs. Comma want to know why you've stopped answering their phone calls and have blocked them on IM.

    If at all possible, arrange to have the PC in question clinging by one hand to a ledge over a deep pit after the Mcguffin is found, so that the lich can say "No....I am your father."

    yeah but i need him to be an actual threat not just a bard
    You don't know bards very well, do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Glyphstone View Post
    Mr. Period and Mrs. Comma want to know why you've stopped answering their phone calls and have blocked them on IM.

    If at all possible, arrange to have the PC in question clinging by one hand to a ledge over a deep pit after the Mcguffin is found, so that the lich can say "No....I am your father."


    You don't know bards very well, do you?
    me and mr period and mrs comma have never gotten along, they think i stole their pie and second, ive never been good at making bard unless there for support characters, buffing and curing along the with cleric/druid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Window459 View Post
    needs to be more Indiana Jones ish
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    Badguy: This is the second time I've had to recover my property from you
    Archaeologist: It belongs in a museum!
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    Does it need to be a lich? I'm sure there are several more immortal spellcasting undeadout there...
    Wait.

    Several more intelegent immortal undead period?
    Hmm, not really. Not that aren't locked into other stereotypes.

    Your the DM, right? Why not homebrew something similar? He had a Caster friend preform the lich making ceremonies on himself, with changes to the ritual here, here, and why not here? And howabout making it a double-ceremony, turning the caster into a real lich at the same time? That would result in an intelegent undead, without being forced into a certain level, and without having to be a caster. Then, take some fitting ToB classes, or if you don't have ToB/are against it, other classes that fit the archeologist roll.

    Keep him well clothed to "Protect against the desert wind/bitter cold/scorching heat of the volcano/traitorous rouges he employs", to keep the PCs from seeing his face, body, even hands. Mention his "gold embroidered gloves, that look like they are from an age gone by", and his "bone mask, carved with several runes used in ancient rituals", as well as his "vast knowledge of ancient weaponry and devices", and it should get the point across that he's very much into his archology role. Or, if their clever, the PCs might figure out his massively huge age.

    If you take this route, I'd recomend classes like rouge and duskblade, and if you want to play on the Indiana Jones idea, weapon proficiency (Whip) should work great. Alternatively, to make it more badass, make it exotic weapon proficiency (Spiked Chain), and flavor his "Chain" as being an abnormally huge whip, with massive peices of metal embedded into it. Bend the rules a little, and let him use whip-based skills with it.

    Actually, a "Lich bound" template sounds like a nice project for me.
    *wanders off to homebrew*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siegel View Post
    Archivist ?
    Seconded.

    If you're looking for a more Indiana Jones type, go for something like a Necropolitan Grey Elf Factotum...

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    Although i think this threads gunna die soon i had the idea of going cleric with the knowledge and death domains

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