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2010-07-18, 12:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
I'm building a non-psionic thri-kreen character for a high-level game, and I've got enough XP to buy off a +1 level adjustment acquired template. I just can't find one that will work for the character.
The build's mostly Ranger going into Dervish, with a Rogue dip for sneak attack.
- Mineral Warrior is LA +1, but it removes the ability to fly. The only way to actually get enough movement to use up all the Dervish Dance scimitar attacks with all 4 arms was to get wings that work at 2x land speed and fly just above the ground. Those come from the Unseelie Fey template (at LA +0, just impossible to resist).
- Lolth-Touched, since it provides immunity to fear, would disallow Craven, which (since it isn't damage from dice) contributes substantially to damage multipliable on a critical hit. With a 15-20 threat range from Improved Critical (scimitar), Dervish Dance and flight providing the ability to make a circuit of multiple flanking positions repeatedly, and mondo attacks: that's going to be a lot.
- Feral almost would have worked (applying it before Unseelie Fey, as it will work on monstrous humanoids but not fey), but it also changes the favored class to Barbarian, which wouldn't allow multiple base classes (Ranger, Rogue) because of the huge multiclassing penalties to XP.
I'm hoping somewhere in some Dragon issue there's a useful +1 LA template that will do something for this character. Any help here, playgrounders?
P.S.: Just to avoid going down some blind alleys regarding the Rogue dip:
- Magic isn't going to be able to supply sneak attack. The character's designed to function in combat without (almost) any magic. Just a bunch of Antimagic Torcs so enemies will be forced to work entirely without magic, too.
- There's just no way the build can free up 2 feats for Martial Study and Martial Stance. Without magic (like keen weapon enhancements) I need feats to compensate (like Improved Critical).
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2010-07-18, 12:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
Would you be interested in large bonuses to hiding and the ability to Hide in Plain Sight? The Dark Template in Tome of Magic might work for you. It also increases the movement speed of all your modes of movement by 10... which I think would actually improve your fly speed by 30ft total because of your flight's dependency on landspeed.
Last edited by FMArthur; 2010-07-18 at 12:53 AM.
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2010-07-18, 12:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
Feral is inherited anyway.
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2010-07-18, 01:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
The only thing I was able to come up with was the Fire Souled Template from Dragon 314. (I was looking at it on Crystalkeep, so forgive me if the LA is off. They are bad about mixing up CR and LA.) Cha+4, and Morale Bonus to 'allies' on saves vs. fear and charm, attacks, and skills. Looks like it is an aura ability, like the Marshal's, but I'm not sure from the reading whether you apply as an ally. (There is also a haste ability, but I'm guessing it is a SLA, and thus useless to this charachter.)
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2010-07-18, 01:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
Lolth-touched MM4 could work.
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2010-07-18, 01:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
Perhaps a single level in a Savage Progression might work? Half-Dragon gives +2 Str, +2 Int, +2 NA, and some other bonuses. Half-Fiend gives +2 Dex, +1 NA, some SLAs, and outsider type.
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2010-07-18, 01:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
I thought Unseelie Fey was errata'ed to be LA +1…
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2010-07-18, 01:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
I second the Dark template
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2010-07-18, 01:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
Dark from ToM grants +10' movement speed, Hide in Plain sight, and several other minor bonuses. It may not be great, but it's better than nothing, and Dervish Dance never minds extra speed.
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So, yeah. Right. Thirded.Last edited by ex cathedra; 2010-07-18 at 01:19 AM.
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2010-07-18, 02:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
I think we have a winner! I don't know why I overlooked this one, even if the Hide in Plain Sight is the weakest of all such abilities. The speed boost is worthwhile. Thanks, FMArthur.
That's LA +3, so no good.
No, it couldn't.
Nope. They changed the CR, not LA.Originally Posted by Dragon Compendium Errata
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2010-07-18, 02:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-07-18, 02:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-07-18, 04:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-07-18, 05:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
White Dragonspawn? I think it's either MMIV or MMV. It's the only LA+1 Dragonspawn. Necropolitan combined with a few Evolved Undead (Libris Mortis) could do too. Best thing is Necropolitan doesn't have LA, you just lose a level but gain bonuses as undead, so maybe you could do that in combo with Evolved Undead.
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2010-07-18, 06:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-07-18, 06:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
There are multiple templates called Dragonspawn, but the only one that ever generally worth mentioning is the White Dragonspawn from the Dragonlance campaign setting, which is atrociously good.
+2 Con, +2 Dex, Natural Flight, and another ability that would make this an overpowered LA+1 template if it was the only ability offered, and then several other minor abilities.
It's a bit over the top, honestly.Last edited by ex cathedra; 2010-07-18 at 06:56 AM.
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2010-07-18, 07:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
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2010-07-18, 09:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
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2010-07-18, 09:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
The part people always fail to remember about dragonspawn is the whole being a thrall of the dragon that created you aspect, not to mention being very campaign-specific.
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2010-07-18, 10:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Looking for a +1 LA template [3.5]
A lil hard on the backstory, but if you're playing an evil campaign, working for a White Dragon ain't that bad.