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2010-07-20, 12:02 PM (ISO 8601)Dwarf in the Playground
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[3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
With the feat Adaptive Style from page 28 of the Tome of Battle, do you regain spent maneuvers when you use this feat? For example, if I have used all of my maneuvers during an encounter, can I use the full-round action to regain all of my maneuvers?
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2010-07-20, 12:09 PM (ISO 8601)Barbarian in the Playground
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Re: Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
You load anew all maneuvers you can ready. All the slots are filled. If you want to just reload whatever you had readied before, go right ahead. If you want to switch them all out, that's fine too.
Originally Posted by Prplcheez
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2010-07-20, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)Ogre in the Playground
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Re: [3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
You change your prepared maneuvers for the day and you "renew" those new ones.
EDIT: Epically swordsage'd. 4 minutes? What is wrong with me?Last edited by Coplantor; 2010-07-20 at 12:14 PM. Reason: Epically swordsage'd.
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2010-07-20, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)Bugbear in the Playground
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Re: [3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
What martial adept wouldn't take this feat?
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2010-07-20, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)Dwarf in the Playground
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Re: [3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
LOL Originally Posted by Coplantor
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2010-07-20, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)Firbolg in the Playground
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Re: [3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
A Crusader. Originally Posted by kjones
Even for Warblades it's usually not a super-high priority.You can call me Draz.
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2010-07-20, 12:22 PM (ISO 8601)Barbarian in the Playground
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Re: [3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
Indeed. Warblades have a good reset maneuver and can afford the five minutes to actually change their set. Swordsages don't have any other reset mechanism, so they use Adaptive Style to get one and the reload is just extra.
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<Flickerdart> So theoretically the master vampire can control three bonused dire weasels, who in turn each control five sub-weasels
<Flickerdart> The sub-weasels can each control two other sub-weasels
<Flickerdart> It's like a pyramid scheme, except the payoff is bleeding to death!
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2010-07-20, 12:29 PM (ISO 8601)Bugbear in the Playground
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Re: [3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
Well then, what swordsage wouldn't take that feat?
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2010-07-20, 12:30 PM (ISO 8601)Ogre in the Playground
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Re: [3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
They do, it's just extremely bad. Originally Posted by Caphi
A full-round action, when a Warblade can do it as a swift+attack, or a crusader who gets then every round? The number of maneuvers Swordsages get is probably meant to balance it, but yeah. Originally Posted by Deophaun
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2010-07-20, 12:30 PM (ISO 8601)Bugbear in the Playground
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Re: [3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
A terrible one/dipper. Trite answer, but probably true. Originally Posted by kjones
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2010-07-20, 12:34 PM (ISO 8601)Firbolg in the Playground
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Re: [3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
True. Not really worth it for a character with just a dip in Swordsage.
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2010-07-20, 12:38 PM (ISO 8601)Barbarian in the Playground
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Re: [3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
Adaptive Style isn't that bad. It's usable in combat if you really really have to. Even out of combat, if you need to get something out, a few seconds (my swordsage does his as a quick breath exercise) is a lot more palatable to the table than five minutes of meditation for each mountain hammer. Originally Posted by Reynard
What I meant was that they don't have anything built in other than the five minutes thing, and all adepts get that.
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<Flickerdart> So theoretically the master vampire can control three bonused dire weasels, who in turn each control five sub-weasels
<Flickerdart> The sub-weasels can each control two other sub-weasels
<Flickerdart> It's like a pyramid scheme, except the payoff is bleeding to death!
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2010-07-20, 12:43 PM (ISO 8601)Orc in the Playground
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Re: [3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
They actually get a full-round action to refresh one maneuver as their baseline, rather than 5 minute meditation.
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2010-07-20, 12:49 PM (ISO 8601)Titan in the Playground
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Re: [3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
If you had Mountain Hammer readied, you could use it every other round to hack through a stone wall, but if you didn't, it would take 5 minutes of meditation/breathing/katas/funkychickendancing to repick your manevuers to get Mountain Hammer readied, THEN you could use it every other round, with a full round action in between to recover that one manevuer.
All Adaptive Style would do in that situation is reduce the 5 minute break to 6 seconds. It wouldn't affect your time in between MH strikes._________________________________ Originally Posted by Fax Celestis
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2010-07-20, 12:53 PM (ISO 8601)Barbarian in the Playground
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Re: [3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
Oh.
Well, that's still terrible. I probably didn't realize because every single swordsage I've ever played has had Adaptive Style.
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<Flickerdart> So theoretically the master vampire can control three bonused dire weasels, who in turn each control five sub-weasels
<Flickerdart> The sub-weasels can each control two other sub-weasels
<Flickerdart> It's like a pyramid scheme, except the payoff is bleeding to death!
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Re: [3.5]Adaptive Style (Tome of Battle question)
Very few. There's something of a joke that goes "Swordsages get a class feature called Adaptive Style in place of their level 1 feat." Originally Posted by kjones
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