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2010-07-21, 02:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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[3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
What's the simplest way, other than level dips, to get into Prestige Bard with Dread Necromancer?
Prestige Bard reqs: Any nonlawful, BAB +3, Knowledge (any one) 4 ranks, Perform (any one) 8 ranks, Ability to cast at least one 1st-level arcane spell from each of the divination, enchantment, and illusion schools.
The bolded reqs are the issues. Apprentice (entertainer) (DMG II feat) can handle Perform. Divination (Detect Undead) and Enchantment (Bane) 1st level spells are sorted, which leaves Illusion. The Anarchic Bloodline feat (DMC) adds Color Spray to spells known, and will cover the Illusion req.
My question: are their other/easier ways to do this, without level dips?My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2010-07-21, 06:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
For the spell requirement, the feat Extra Spell from Complete Arcane should do the trick.
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2010-07-21, 07:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
Arcane disciple should add a few illusion spells to the mix if you pick the right domain and have a decent wisdom score.
There is a feat that lets you add any 2 skills you already have to the skill-list of all your classes or making 1 skill that is currently totally crossclass for you a classskill for all classes. The name eludes me at the moment though. Think it's in races of destiny or somesuch."Quick Draw. It grants the ability to turn any boring non-combat scenario into combat as a FREE ACTION."-Deleted User
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2010-07-21, 08:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
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2010-07-21, 10:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
No, because it would remain crossclass. And thus you would need a lot more lvls to get 8 ranks.
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2010-07-21, 11:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
I think Arcane disciple Gnome domain would be the best option.... I think it haves Silent Image as a first level spell.
Now the question: why do you want to prestige into prestige bard?
10 gp says want to do that fiddle playing bard, from the demotivator poster
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2010-07-21, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
It would make a neat dirgsinger.
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2010-07-21, 12:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
use any race that has an illusion spell when you have at least 10 CHA like gnome with Ghost Sound. it may be Sorc/Wiz 0, but it is a 1st level assassin spell, which is arcane
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2010-07-21, 01:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
Aereni Focus feat from Player's Guide to Eberron adds any one Skill as a class Skill for you, and you gain Skill Focus for it. However, this is a regional Eberron Elf-only thing. Apprentice is probably a much better way to go though. Just thought I'd toss out another option.
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2010-07-21, 06:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
I thought errata/FAQ ruled that Extra Spell can only get spells already on your class list?
Nope, just interested in an undead/necro themed bard...looking at the feats Song of the Dead and possibly into Dirgesinger.
Yes, that pic is fairly cool, but not my inspiration in this particular case.Last edited by Thurbane; 2010-07-21 at 06:01 PM.
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2010-07-21, 06:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
Skill knowledge is for an alternative skill system quite different from the default one.
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2010-07-21, 06:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
Also: Dragonfire Inspiration + Hordes of Undead = holy crap ouch that hurt.
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2010-07-21, 06:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-07-28, 10:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
The thread's only a week old, so I hope this doesn't count as thread necro. o.O
Regarding the Illusion spell, you could always try and talk your DM into letting you use the Warmage's Eclectic Learning ACF from PHB2. Lets you use an Advanced Learning slot to learn a sor/wiz spell from a school that you wouldn't normally be allowed to learn, albeit in a higher level spell slot. (ie. learn a 2nd lvl illusion spell as a 3rd lvl Dread Necro spell). Warmage casting is practically identical to Dread Necro casting, so I don't see why any DM would have a problem with it.
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2010-07-28, 10:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-07-28, 02:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
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2010-07-28, 03:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Dread Necro into Prestige Bard?
For skills, there is also the Flexible Mind feat from Dragon Magazine. Any two skills become class skills. However, that is an Anarchic feat, like Exalted but with chaos, which may or may not be an issue.