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    Should've called this "After War GAD-am X".

    So:

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    They did some of that already in Z.
    Yeah, but Za Glory Star is only a single attack (two if you count the map version) and other than that, Balgora and Setsuko are original creations. And Signum on the other hand is, let's face it, ripping off Lamia and Angelg wholesale.

    Not that it's a bad thing. Both Lamia and Signum are awesome.

    Also, Obari did CompatiKaiser in OGs, so he's had OG experience.
    I know. This is why Compatible Kaiser looks just like Gravion.
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    Magic is real in the same manner that alchemy is: attempts by people in the past to control their fates in imaginative and complicated ways. Both "worked" enough that they were cemented in history, but neither was successful enough to actually accomplish anything.
    No, you dont understand. Things like Auqua Regia, Boom Powder and the discovery of new Elements happened through Alchemy. Alchemy was a science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubey View Post
    Should've called this "After War GAD-am X"
    And now I have.

    Yeah, but Za Glory Star is only a single attack (two if you count the map version) and other than that, Balgora and Setsuko are original creations. And Signum on the other hand is, let's face it, ripping off Lamia and Angelg wholesale.
    If you squint, Wodan Ymir could be a reference to Fate, what with being an insecure clone who wields a zankantou. (yes, I know Zanber Form was a Sanger reference, but Wodan came after Fate)


    Also, take a look at this - Super Robot anime with three female pilots:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q0OnCMLkNU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmBpEkKk6u8
    Is it just me or does the main character look kinda familiar?
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    Hey, another rare mecha series with a female protagonist!

    The artstyle looks very 80s but the series itself apparently comes from 2002. I guess they went for retro stylization on purpose. Getting a kinda Gunbuster meets GaoGaiGar vibe here. The pilot suits really remind me of Evangelion though, or to be even more precise - of Fafner. But Fafner came out in 2004, so it can't be a reference...

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    So... anybody know anything about The Five Star Stories?

    I've not heard from anyone reliable about it's quality, so I wonder if anyone knows much.

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    Alchemy is a science the same way a Utahraptor is a bird.
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    I don't think the "is/was alchemy a legitimate field of science or not" discussion belongs in this thread anymore, as it isn't really discussed in the context or anime/manga.

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    Shakugan no Shana third season
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    Eden of the East (might as well watch this at some point, and if it's good the films too)
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    New Negima out!

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    Aaanndd we're back to the begginning. School life comedy-drama.

    Will Negi learn IRON HEART SURGE to break out from there? Or will be rescued by some exterior force? Duh-duh duh!


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    What third season?
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    Aaanndd we're back to the begginning. School life comedy-drama.

    Will Negi learn IRON HEART SURGE to break out from there? Or will be rescued by some exterior force? Duh-duh duh!

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    And here I thought the Book of Darkness being created by the Mage of the Beginning was crazy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0Megabyte View Post
    So... anybody know anything about The Five Star Stories?

    I've not heard from anyone reliable about it's quality, so I wonder if anyone knows much.
    Only secondhand information. I won't be able to help you much here, but from my impression the series is:
    1. Overwhelming in its scope
    2. Very, very unusual

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    Anybody ever watched the Today in Class 5-2 Anime? Is it as good as the manga?

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    Negima:
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    Welcome to the Lotus Eater Machine scenario. Now, I wonder when and how will Negi break free... or will he?

    After all, what he wanted most is to find his father, and that's what he has now. He might as well just be happy with his existence now, whether or not he realizes it's a false one... okay, we're not fooling anyone. Of course he's breaking free out of this.

    And Lotus Eater scenarios usually annoy me when they take too long (read: more than one chapter), but I actually like both School Hijinks Negima and Epic Adventuring Negima. So I'm okay with this one. And it's amusing to see princess Arika act tsundere towards her own son.

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    Negi is totally breaking out of LEM in short order. He's already clued in to its lack of reality and seems to have nearly broken it already. Though taking it over the top with Nagi and Arika might drag this out....

    I'm willing to consider at this moment that this is where the two of them have been since Istanbul. Arika seems to have the same concerns as her son about this thing's reality.

    Course it still leaves how Nagi left it to rescue Negi a few years later, but this makes sense to me. After all if we establish Nagi as alive, then somebody of his power level has to have some reason for not being around.

    It seems to me that its either this or he fell for the previous Fate's offer and got snared by that eagle statue thing to not interefere, which is why the Megalomesembrian senate being being the village attack is significant.

    Though these aren't mutually exclusive options either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Closet_Skeleton View Post
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    What third season?
    http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...es-after-s-ova

    Of cource, it's not out yet or anything. Just a mental-self-note to watch it if and when it airs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon Barbarian View Post
    Anybody ever watched the Today in Class 5-2 Anime? Is it as good as the manga?
    I haven't read the manga so I can't comment on it's quality compared to that, but I did enjoy the anime immensely.

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    Ooh, new thread. I forgot to look in here forever.

    So, has anyone seen Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou? Spoiler alert: I hate it. :P

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    Was linked to Metal Heart and read a few chapters. It's got to be the most meta Magical Girlfriend series ever. Also, Kyosuke Nambu appears to be in it for some reason.
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    SnS 3 is coming out this fall. As to your request for suggestions, most of these stuff are things you probably have watched before, I'll just list them anyway, in hopes that you'll find something that you have not watched.

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    Kara no Kyoukai
    KyoAni+Key (Clannad, Kanon, Air, Angel Beats)
    Fate stay/night
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    Higrashu no Naku Koro Ni

    Those are the rather more serious ones, though to different degrees.
    If you are just looking for fun and sunlight:

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    Bamboo Blade

    I'm not very sunny.

    Also, I would suggest that you watch Kugimiya Rie's other works before Zero no Tsukaima, which I would say is average at best. Try Toradora if you haven't watched yet.
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    I haven't read the manga so I can't comment on it's quality compared to that, but I did enjoy the anime immensely.
    I love both the manga and the anime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon Barbarian View Post
    Except Alchemy was real, and magic isnt. So no, its its own thing. In China and the Middl East, it was definitely regarded as a science.
    While both those cultures almost arrived at the discovery of modern scientific practice, neither really could go much further than the idea of philosophical naturalism.

    As for the Middle East, I could point a finger at a certain very prominent . . . uhhh . . . movement, for retarding progress.

    You'll note that Chinese cultural bias tends to see the world as composed of dispassionate energies. This is an improvement over typically "Western" views that were more likely anthropomorphize everything they didn't understand. (Not that the "East" didn't have it's share of paternalistic spirits and gods.)

    The problem is that the superstition remains superstition and the culture tends to be obssessed with the notion of internal and external harmony in one form or another (i.e. Daoism, Buddhism, Confucianism, the concept of Chi, Feng Shui and so on). However, "balance" is more an ideal than a fact of the universe. Notably, the classical Greeks also seemed to make the same mistake of confusing the two. (Wizard of Earthsea beats this theme to death with a stick.)

    You can also tell a lot about a person by how they like their magic portrayed in fiction. People who think that "A" is "A" are among the more boring examples of this. (Alchemy is alchemy and not magic just because my words say so.)

    The other boring permutation of this is when magic is literally just contemporary technology. Except it won't be called technology, because technology is a "sciency" thing used by course and common spirits who are blind to the infinite beauty of the universe. But the magic is just as bland, accessible, commonplace and safe as cellphones; though nobody seems to notice the irony.

    Then there's White Wolf "Mages." Magic or "Magick" works exactly the way the metaphysician thinks it should. That is to say: White Wolf is inordinately fond of pretentious sophistry.

    I've also concluded that the latter two examples are likely to indicate white guilt.
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    Can we please move the magic/alchemy/whatever discussion to a seperate thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prime32 View Post
    Was linked to Metal Heart and read a few chapters. It's got to be the most meta Magical Girlfriend series ever. Also, Kyosuke Nambu appears to be in it for some reason.
    Yeah, I'm finding it to be hilarious, though I thought that it was odd being shown left-to-right for a manga. Though the fact that it's a Korean comic might have something to do with that.

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    @S C : Of those listed I've watched Higurashi (orig. sound novels were much, much better), Ef (both seasons) and Angel Beats!.

    I'm not touching either School Days or Elfen Lied with a ten-foot pole, for reasons too numerous to mention.

    I might take a look at Kara no Kyokai, but the rest of the mentioned that I haven't already addressed don't seem to really be my style.

    Edit: And, yes, I've watched Toradora. Amusing enough at times, but not that great of a series in any shape or form.
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    Then I don't see the point of ZnT. Try something else then. I can see why you wouldn't want to watch those two. If that's the case, drop Kara no Kyoukai as well. Too much blood. High definition, big budget animation blood but yeah. That doesn't really help.

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    Why have I never heard of this show: Real Drive
    I think Ghost In the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is one of the best shows ever made, not only because of the action but also because of the quality animation and sound, as well as putting a great deal of deeper thinking into a show about cyborgs blowing stuff up. Real Drive seems to be a similar show, but appparetly without the explosions.
    Which I consider a good thing, by the way.
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    Why have I never heard of this show: Real Drive
    I think Ghost In the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is one of the best shows ever made, not only because of the action but also because of the quality animation and sound, as well as putting a great deal of deeper thinking into a show about cyborgs blowing stuff up. Real Drive seems to be a similar show, but appparetly without the explosions.
    Which I consider a good thing, by the way.
    Can't comment on Real Drive (although it does look interesting), I agree with your opinion on GitS SAC. It's just amazing. Saw it again recently and it has to be one of the best balanced shows around, not just in terms of anime, but in terms of everything.

    Just thought I'd gush about it...

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    *squueeee*

    I think I have to get it on DVD and spread the word if it holds what it promisses.

    Apparently it's not even available at amazon, but there's one offer from Malaysia on eBay. ^^
    I have a friend who's going to Japan after Christmas. I know he'll do a lot of shopping, so I get him to grab it for me.
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    Why have I never heard of this show: Real Drive
    I think Ghost In the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is one of the best shows ever made, not only because of the action but also because of the quality animation and sound, as well as putting a great deal of deeper thinking into a show about cyborgs blowing stuff up. Real Drive seems to be a similar show, but appparetly without the explosions.
    Which I consider a good thing, by the way.
    Similar sounds like an understatment here. Tvtropes is speculating their part of the same 'Verse

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