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Thread: Cleric Domains Question
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2010-07-24, 12:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Cleric Domains Question
Is it possible to take a domain twice, so I get the power for the domain, as well as the ability to trade for the devotion feat?
I am considering taking cloistered cleric as a 1 level dip, with the animal, and double knowledge domains, so i get all knowledges as class skills, as well as animal and knowedge devotions, without burning a feat.
To make it easier for my DM to digest, if it is even possible to double up the domains, I plan on ignoring the spellcasting all together.
PS this is a pathfinder game with 3.5 allowed to be interchanged freely (subject to DM acceptance)Awesome avatar done by Ravens_Wing
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2010-07-24, 12:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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You can only select a domain once. Just as you can only select a prohibited wizard school once. This entire idea is the worst case of "creative player didn't bother to read the PHB" I have ever seen.
Wow.
Just wow.
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2010-07-24, 12:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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It's not blatant munchkinery, mate. The premise is that by trading it for the feat, you no longer have it; allowing you to take it again as a normal domain.
It's hardly like picking the same school twice to be banned for Wizard specialization.
While I believe it is still illegal by RAW, heck, I'd allow it as a DM.Intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put tomato in fruit salad. Charisma is convincing someone it's a good idea anyways.
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2010-07-24, 01:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Cleric Domains Question
Raw says you trade domains for devotions, and that you can't take a domain twice...But it ends there. It's obscure whether or not you could take a domain, trade it for a feat and take the domain again.
It's as if you were taking the domains at separate times.I wouldn't allow it.
It's as if you replaced a D8 dice with a D6 dice for an extra feat. Feels like it ticks the wrong way.
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2010-07-24, 01:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Cleric Domains Question
Doubt it's RAW, but it sounds like a cool concept. Especially if you think of it as a cleric who is super-devoted to a specific power. If you're ignoring or limiting spellcasting I don't see how it would break anything.
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2010-07-24, 01:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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I figured the spellcasting limitation would more than balance it out, and I am also willing to burn the feat if I have to, would be nice if i did not have to though.
thanks for the insight, and for the most part, agreeing with the cool idea :)Awesome avatar done by Ravens_Wing
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2010-07-24, 01:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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You do also lose medium/heavy armor proficiency and get poor BAB.
However, while both are noticeable at lower levels of play, at higher levels you have a Monk's Belt and Persisted Divine Power anyways, soooooo... yeah.
Clerics are good. Cloistered Clerics, even more so.Intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put tomato in fruit salad. Charisma is convincing someone it's a good idea anyways.
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2010-07-24, 02:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-07-24, 02:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Cleric Domains Question
You can select two domains that can be traded for the same devotion, and trade away the one you don't like. Meditation, mind, mentalism, oracle and truth all seem like they might yield the Knowledge devotion.
Alternatively, take Able Learner, and swap the Knowledge domain to the devotion later. After all, once a class skill, always a class skill (for the skill cap anyway).Quotes:Praise for avatar may be directed to Derjuin.Spoiler
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2010-07-24, 03:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Cleric Domains Question
The official list has Inquisition and Mind swappable for Knowledge Devotion. Oracle swaps for Luck Devotion.
Originally Posted by GreenishEach skill point you spend on a class skill gets you 1 rank in that skill. Class skills are the skills found on your character’s class skill list. ... Cross-class skills are skills not found on your character’s class skill list.Originally Posted by Able Learner
However, you'll be well served by the Education feat, which simply makes all Knowledge skills class skills for your character.
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2010-07-24, 11:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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How do we feel about trading away a domain, then re-acquiring it later via a PrC that gives you domains, like Contemplative or Seeker of the Misty Isle?
That won't really help the original poster though, who I would advise to just take Knowledge Devotion as a feat.
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2010-07-24, 11:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Cleric Domains Question
I've seen a lot of "you can't choose the same domain twice" and just wanted to point out that you don't choose the Knowledge Domain when you pick Cloistered Cleric.
Originally Posted by Cloistered Cleric
Edit:By my above statement about Bonus domains, I would say that it is fine. Also, I can't find where the PHB says that you can't choose the same domain twice.Last edited by dextercorvia; 2010-07-24 at 11:47 PM.
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2010-07-25, 08:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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I completely forgot about the expanded domains...
Perfect, and it gets me away from having to explain to my DM about why i have two of the "same domains"
Thanks everyone, I think you solved my problem.Awesome avatar done by Ravens_Wing
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2010-07-25, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Cleric Domains Question
Quotes:Praise for avatar may be directed to Derjuin.Spoiler