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    Under the Disguise skill, there's a modifier for disguising as a different race. However, there's nothing in there about different size categories. What if you created a disguise to appear slightly larger than normal, or even smaller than usual?

    Are there modifiers for that, or is it assumed that you can't use Disguise to appear as a different size category?
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    Default Re: Disguise [3.5]

    There are rules for modifying your apparent height.
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    Well, there's a modifier for trying to look like a younger or older person, i should think that would work for trying to be smaller, since young kids are short. I dont see anything in the SRD about size modifiers, so i guess it's up to the DM.

    *edit Where are those rules located, prime?
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    There are penalties for using the Disguise skill to change your apparent height by more than 10%. See here.
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    Default Re: Disguise [3.5]

    Silly me, i didnt even bother to look in the epic rules.. of course, a lot of the things epic skill lets you do are ludicrous so i usually disregard them..meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Temotei View Post
    Under the Disguise skill, there's a modifier for disguising as a different race. However, there's nothing in there about different size categories. What if you created a disguise to appear slightly larger than normal, or even smaller than usual?

    Are there modifiers for that, or is it assumed that you can't use Disguise to appear as a different size category?
    The disguise skill says you can't change your size. Epic rules let you though. Remember this is only clothing, makeup, etc.
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    Default Re: Disguise [3.5]

    Quote Originally Posted by Prime32 View Post
    There are rules for modifying your apparent height.
    I remember seeing it under the skill description in the Epic Level Handbook. It can probably be found somewhere else too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marnath View Post
    a lot of the things epic skill lets you do are ludicrous
    In the context of a game which has a lack of upper limits on human ability as one of its central conceits, not really. "By 9th level, you're pretty much past the point of being able to use 'It's not realistic!' as any sort of relevant complaint in a D&D environment", and I don't see anything game-breaking about Epic skills, save for Diplomacy (which is already broken pre-Epic).
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    Abstract positioning, either fully "position doesn't matter" or "zones" or whatever, is fine. If the rules reflect that. Exact positioning, with a visual representation, is fine. But "exact positioning theoretically exists, and the rules interact with it, but it only exists in the GM's head and is communicated to the players a bit at a time" sucks for anything even a little complex. And I say this from a GM POV.

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    Well, while it's not exactly game breaking, it is kinda silly that with an Epic Escape Artist check, you can squeeze through a Wall of Force.
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    Default Re: Disguise [3.5]

    Noncasters already break reality at level 7 or 8. Why can't they balance on a cloud or pass through a wall of force at 30?

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    Default Re: Disguise [3.5]

    Lol, because my ignorance of how sword fighting or lockpicking works leads me to believe most anything, but i have trouble suspending my disbelief when we get to sillyness like swimming up a waterfall or running up a slick, smooth wall. I'm well aware none of it is realistic, just some things are harder to swallow than others. Of course, the easy thing when you have a moment is just say a wizard did it.

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