TWF Question

[bartman]

I am not sure if I have the TWF rules right when I do this. Currently if I move, then I can only attack with my MH at my highest BAB, and do not get the OH attack unless I can full attack. Is this correct, or should I, as a standard action, attack with MH and OH at full BAB-2? If I am doing it right, does anyone know of a way I could attack with MH and OH after a move? I dont even care if it is a full attack, just one "round" (MH, OH) would suffice for me. I know about Belt of Battle, and Pounce, but are there any other ways?

[WarKitty]

I am not sure if I have the TWF rules right when I do this. Currently if I move, then I can only attack with my MH at my highest BAB, and do not get the OH attack unless I can full attack. Is this correct, or should I, as a standard action, attack with MH and OH at full BAB-2? If I am doing it right, does anyone know of a way I could attack with MH and OH after a move? I dont even care if it is a full attack, just one "round" (MH, OH) would suffice for me. I know about Belt of Battle, and Pounce, but are there any other ways?

You are correct, you can only attack with your MH unless you are full attacking. I believe there is a thread on how to get move and full attack somewhere around here, I'll let our more experienced playgrounders dig it up.

[KillianHawkeye]

There is a feat (in Players Handbook 2 maybe?) that lets you use both weapons as a standard action. I think the feat is called Dual Strike, or something like that. You roll a single attack roll but you deal the damage from both your weapons. Also I think there's a penalty on the attack.

But yes, normally if you want to have more than 1 attack you need to use a Full Attack action. Although when making a single attack you can use either weapon; you're not limited to the one that is usually in your "main" hand.

[Tequila Sunrise]

There is a feat (in Players Handbook 2 maybe?) that lets you use both weapons as a standard action. I think the feat is called Dual Strike, or something like that. You roll a single attack roll but you deal the damage from both your weapons. Also I think there's a penalty on the attack.

It's in one of the Complete books. Either 'Adventurer or 'Warrior.

[true_shinken]

It's in one of the Complete books. Either 'Adventurer or 'Warrior.

But this feat sucks. Hard.
You don't get any bonus damage on the off-hand attack. Bonus damage is what makes TWF work.
I'd consider Double Hit from Miniatures Handbook, though - two attacks on an AoO.

[tyckspoon]

There's a pretty large number of ways to get movement as a Swift action; if you want to go feat based, you can get Travel Devotion (Move as a Swift action 1/day for 1 minute, or basically 1 encounter; more uses are gained by Turn Undead uses) or spend a couple of Martial Study feats to get the Sudden Leap maneuver from Tiger Claw, which lets you make a Swift Jump check. Both are easier to do or greatly enhanced by a level dip (Cleric and Warblade, respectively) however, so you may as well just get the Barbarian dip for proper Pounce.

[AslanCross]

The maneuver Wolf Fang Strike from Tome of Battle is a Lv1, no-prerequisite remedy for attacking with two weapons as a standard action. (It is, however, just one hit from each weapon at a -2 penalty, overwriting the default TWF penalty.)

EDIT: No prerequisites apart from having Tome of Battle allowed in your games, of course.

[Frosty]

In the PHB2 there is a feat called Two-weapon Pounce I think, where you get to make an attack with both weapons at the end of a charge, at a -2 penalty to both attacks of course. Full bonus damage and whatnot to both attacks.

[Greenish]

It should not come as a surprise to anyone, but Person_Man has a list of Ways to get pounce or free movement.

[Tyndmyr]

I need a list of the things Person_Man DOESN'T have lists of.

[Prodan]

• Ways to make sandwiches
• The Kings of Egypt
• Genealogy of the Bible
• Medal of Honor winners
• Victoria Cross recipients
• Attendance roster of the 1923 COMINTERN
• Means of turning base metals into gold

[bartman]

well, looks like 2 weapon pounce is the way to go, for what I want it for. I was considering either a lion totem barbarian dip, or the dual strike feat, but i like the TWP feat better. Im just looking for a way to apply my free trip from the feat high sword low axe on the first round of combat,after i have moved in to engage the enemy. this would be perfect, charge in, hit with both, trip, and not worry about the -2 to AC overly much since the enemy is on his ass :)

[Mongoose87]

• Ways to make sandwiches
• The Kings of Egypt
• Genealogy of the Bible
• Medal of Honor winners
• Victoria Cross recipients
• Attendance roster of the 1923 COMINTERN
• Means of turning base metals into gold

I couldn't believe he had a list of former airline pilots named George, but I did a search, and there it was.