New OOTS products from CafePress
New OOTS t-shirts, ornaments, mugs, bags, and more
Results 1 to 20 of 20

Thread: Caster Chart

  1. - Top - End - #1
    Dwarf in the Playground
     
    RedWizardGuy

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Gender
    Male

    Default Caster Chart

    Alright so, the way I see it casters are basically divided by arcane / divine casting, prepared or spontaneous, whether they get bonus spells from an attribute bonus.

    I was wondering if there was a chart or other organization that shows all or most caster classes divided by these categories or similar ones.

    Also I was wondering if there's an organization anywhere showing classes by spells per day / spells known.

  2. - Top - End - #2
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    PId6's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Elemental Plane of Paper
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Not that I know of, but it's not hard to make one. Here:

    {table=head]Class|
    Arcane/Divine
    |
    Spontaneous/Prepared
    |
    Spell DCs Stat
    |
    Bonus Spells Stat
    |
    Required Stat
    |
    Max Spell Level

    Adept|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    5

    Archivist|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Int
    |
    Wis
    |
    Int
    |
    9

    Artificer|
    Neither
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    None
    |
    Int
    |
    Int
    |
    6

    Bard|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    6

    Bardic Sage|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    Int
    |
    6

    Beguiler|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Int
    |
    Int
    |
    Int
    |
    9

    Cleric|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    9

    Death Master|
    Arcane
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Int
    |
    Int
    |
    Int
    |
    9

    Divine Bard|
    Divine
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    Wis
    |
    6

    Dread Necromancer|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    9

    Druid|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    9

    Duskblade|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Int
    |
    Int
    |
    Int
    |
    5

    Favored Soul|
    Divine
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Wis
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    9

    Healer|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Cha
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    9

    Hexblade|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    4

    Jester|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    6

    Mystic Ranger|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    5

    Paladin|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    4

    Ranger|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    4

    Savant|
    Arcane/Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Int/Wis
    |
    Int/Wis
    |
    Int/Wis
    |
    4

    Sha'ir|
    Arcane/Divine
    |
    Prepared-ish
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    9

    Shaman|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    9

    Shugenja|
    Divine
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    9

    Sohei|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    4

    Sorcerer|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    9

    Spellthief|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    4

    Spirit Shaman|
    Divine
    |
    Spontaneous-ish
    |
    Cha
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    9

    Spontaneous Cleric|
    Divine
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    9

    Spontaneous Druid|
    Divine
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    Wis
    |
    9

    Urban Druid|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    9

    Warmage|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    Cha
    |
    9

    Wizard|
    Arcane
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Int
    |
    Int
    |
    Int
    |
    9

    Wu Jen|
    Arcane
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Int
    |
    Int
    |
    Int
    |
    9

    [/table]

    This includes all the base casting classes I can think of, though I might have missed some especially if they're in more obscure books. Didn't bother with PrCs, since that would take forever. I included artificer, since that was close enough to spellcasting, but I didn't include psionicists, invokers, or similar casting systems.

    Edit: PrCs

    {table=head]Class|
    Arcane/Divine
    |
    Spontaneous/Prepared
    |
    Casting Stat
    |
    Min Spell Level
    |
    Max Spell Level

    Apostle of Peace|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    0
    |
    9

    Assassin|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Int
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Avenger|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Int
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Beloved of Valarian|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Beholder Mage|
    Arcane
    |
    Technically Spontaneous
    |
    Int
    |
    0
    |
    9

    Blackguard|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Blighter|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    0
    |
    9

    Chameleon|
    Arcane/Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Int/Wis
    |
    0
    |
    6

    Champion of Gwynharwyf|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Consecrated Harrier|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Demonologist|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Divine Crusader|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Cha
    |
    1
    |
    9

    Emissary of Barachiel|
    Divine
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Hoardstealer|
    Arcane
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Int
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Holy Liberator|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Hunter of the Dead|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Justice of Weald and Woe|
    Divine
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Wis
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Knight of the Chalice|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Knight of the Weave|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    1
    |
    6

    Mortal Hunter|
    Divine
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Nar Demonbinder|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    4
    |
    8

    Nentyar Hunter|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    1
    |
    5

    Pious Templar|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Runescarred Berserker|
    Divine
    |
    Neither
    |
    Wis
    |
    1
    |
    5

    Slayer of Domiel|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Sublime Chord|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    4
    |
    9

    Suel Arcanamach|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    1
    |
    5

    Telflammar Shadowlord|
    Arcane
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Int
    |
    1
    |
    3

    Temple Raider of Olidammara|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Thayan Slaver|
    Arcane
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Int
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Trapsmith|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Int
    |
    1
    |
    3

    Ur-Priest|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    0
    |
    9

    Vassal of Bahamut|
    Divine
    |
    Prepared
    |
    Wis
    |
    1
    |
    4

    Vigilante|
    Arcane
    |
    Spontaneous
    |
    Cha
    |
    1
    |
    4

    [/table]

    Psionics:

    {table=head]Class|
    PrC/Base
    |
    Manifesting Stat
    |
    Powers Known
    |
    Max Power Level

    Ardent|
    Base
    |
    Wis
    |
    21
    |
    9

    Divine Mind|
    Base
    |
    Wis
    |
    9
    |
    6

    Erudite|
    Base
    |
    Int
    |
    Infinite
    |
    9

    Lurk|
    Base
    |
    Int
    |
    20
    |
    6

    Psion|
    Base
    |
    Int
    |
    36
    |
    9

    Psychic Rogue|
    Base
    |
    Int
    |
    15
    |
    5

    Psychic Warrior|
    Base
    |
    Wis
    |
    20
    |
    6

    War Mind|
    PrC
    |
    Wis
    |
    6
    |
    5

    Wilder|
    Base
    |
    Cha
    |
    11
    |
    9

    Zerth Cenobite|
    PrC
    |
    Wis
    |
    5
    |
    4

    [/table]
    Last edited by PId6; 2010-08-17 at 07:38 PM.
    Rogue Handbook | Warmage Rebuild | Diablo's Assassin | Revised Classes
    Potpourri Creation Contest II Winner: Desert Martial Adept Substitution Levels
    Potpourri Creation Contest III Best Characterization: Edward the Sly's Lucky Spells
    Prestige Class Contest XXI Submission: Child of the Seelie Court

  3. - Top - End - #3
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2010

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Where/What is Death Master?

  4. - Top - End - #4
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Keld Denar's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Dragon Compendium. Osteomancer is also there. Its pretty lame though, for a caster.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fax Celestis View Post
    AILHAY THULUCAY! AILHAY THULUCAY! AILHAY THULUCAY!
    _________________________________
    A beholder’s favorite foods include small live mammals, exotic mushrooms and other fungi, gnomes, beef, pork, colorful leafy vegetables, leaves, flower petals, insects, and birds.

  5. - Top - End - #5
    Firbolg in the Playground
     
    NecromancerGuy

    Join Date
    Dec 2006

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Sha'ir source, please?
    Iron Chef in the Playground veteran since Round IV. Play as me!


    Spoiler
    Show

  6. - Top - End - #6
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    PId6's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Elemental Plane of Paper
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Quote Originally Posted by Amphetryon View Post
    Sha'ir source, please?
    Dragon compendium again. It's... a very strange class, with an extremely complex mechanic for getting spells that's probably not worth playing through early on.
    Rogue Handbook | Warmage Rebuild | Diablo's Assassin | Revised Classes
    Potpourri Creation Contest II Winner: Desert Martial Adept Substitution Levels
    Potpourri Creation Contest III Best Characterization: Edward the Sly's Lucky Spells
    Prestige Class Contest XXI Submission: Child of the Seelie Court

  7. - Top - End - #7
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Keld Denar's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    You could also add PrCs that grant their own spellcasting without too much trouble. Off the top of my head:

    Divine Crusader: 9th Prepared
    Suel Arcanamach: 5th Spontaneous
    Sublime Chord: 9th Spontaneous
    Holy Liberator: 4th Prepared
    Pious Templar: 4th Prepared
    Justicar of Weal and Woe: 4th? Prepared
    Bloodhound: 4th Prepared
    Apostle of Peace: 9th Prepared
    Ur-Priest: 9th Prepared
    Blackguard: 4th Prepared
    Assassin: 4th Prepared

    Probably a couple more.

    For Psionics, there is:
    Psion: 9th
    Wilder: 9th
    PsyWar: 6th
    Ardent: 9th
    Lurk: 6th
    Divine Mind: 6th
    PsyThief: 6th?
    Warmind: 5th

    I'm sure there are a few more, but thats what I remember off the top of my head.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fax Celestis View Post
    AILHAY THULUCAY! AILHAY THULUCAY! AILHAY THULUCAY!
    _________________________________
    A beholder’s favorite foods include small live mammals, exotic mushrooms and other fungi, gnomes, beef, pork, colorful leafy vegetables, leaves, flower petals, insects, and birds.

  8. - Top - End - #8
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Greenish's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Finland

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Quote Originally Posted by Keld Denar View Post
    Assassin: 4th Prepared
    Assassin is spontaneous (with way too few spells known).
    Quotes:
    Spoiler
    Show
    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius Maximus View Post
    Also fixed the money issue by sacrificing a goat.
    Quote Originally Posted by subject42 View Post
    This board needs a "you're technically right but I still want to crawl into the fetal position and cry" emoticon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukitsu View Post
    I define [optimization] as "the process by which one attains a build meeting all mechanical and characterization goals set out by the creator prior to its creation."
    Praise for avatar may be directed to Derjuin.

  9. - Top - End - #9
    Firbolg in the Playground
     
    NecromancerGuy

    Join Date
    Dec 2006

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Add Knight of the Weave to Keld's list. Spontaneous, 6th, weird list.
    Iron Chef in the Playground veteran since Round IV. Play as me!


    Spoiler
    Show

  10. - Top - End - #10
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    Wonton's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Canada
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Quote Originally Posted by Keld Denar View Post
    Dragon Compendium. Osteomancer is also there. Its pretty lame though, for a caster.
    They cast... from their bones?
    Rules that supersede Rule 0:

    Rule -1: You're all there to have fun. The GM and the players should never do anything that would limit people's fun, for any in-game or real-life reason.

    Rule -0.5 (corollary): That means that if someone's fun is getting in the way of other people's fun, that person needs to change how they're playing.

  11. - Top - End - #11
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    PId6's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Elemental Plane of Paper
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Alright, added the list for PrCs. There are just way too many crappy paladin knockoffs . I'm certain I've missed a few though.
    Rogue Handbook | Warmage Rebuild | Diablo's Assassin | Revised Classes
    Potpourri Creation Contest II Winner: Desert Martial Adept Substitution Levels
    Potpourri Creation Contest III Best Characterization: Edward the Sly's Lucky Spells
    Prestige Class Contest XXI Submission: Child of the Seelie Court

  12. - Top - End - #12
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    SurlySeraph's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Department of Smiting
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    PId6, has anyone told you you're awesome recently? Because you are, and I want to make sure you're aware of that.

    @DrWonton: Yes, they use their bones to cast bone spells on skeletons... made of boooooones!. It is a silly class.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thespianus View Post
    I fail to see how "No, that guy is too fat to be hurt by your fire" would make sense.

  13. - Top - End - #13
    Dwarf in the Playground
     
    RedWizardGuy

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Quote Originally Posted by SurlySeraph View Post
    PId6, has anyone told you you're awesome recently? Because you are, and I want to make sure you're aware of that.
    Yeah really, I was expecting a link or a no. :P This is pretty awesome.

    Only thing I'd still be wondering about is do all of the base classes get bonus spells from their caster attribute?

  14. - Top - End - #14
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    PId6's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Elemental Plane of Paper
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Quote Originally Posted by SurlySeraph View Post
    PId6, has anyone told you you're awesome recently? Because you are, and I want to make sure you're aware of that.
    Just for that, psionic classes up.

    Quote Originally Posted by zephiros View Post
    Only thing I'd still be wondering about is do all of the base classes get bonus spells from their caster attribute?
    Yes, every spellcasting class (without really weird mechanics) gets bonus spells from some stat.
    Last edited by PId6; 2010-08-17 at 06:45 PM.
    Rogue Handbook | Warmage Rebuild | Diablo's Assassin | Revised Classes
    Potpourri Creation Contest II Winner: Desert Martial Adept Substitution Levels
    Potpourri Creation Contest III Best Characterization: Edward the Sly's Lucky Spells
    Prestige Class Contest XXI Submission: Child of the Seelie Court

  15. - Top - End - #15
    Dwarf in the Playground
     
    RedWizardGuy

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    If you would be willing to suffer my ignorance, how does the Erudite get unlimited power points? I admittedly only looked at it once before, but I thought it was the same power usage as a Psion.

  16. - Top - End - #16
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    PId6's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Elemental Plane of Paper
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Quote Originally Posted by zephiros View Post
    If you would be willing to suffer my ignorance, how does the Erudite get unlimited power points? I admittedly only looked at it once before, but I thought it was the same power usage as a Psion.
    Powers known, not power points. Erudites can learn powers from other manifesters beyond the normal limit.
    Rogue Handbook | Warmage Rebuild | Diablo's Assassin | Revised Classes
    Potpourri Creation Contest II Winner: Desert Martial Adept Substitution Levels
    Potpourri Creation Contest III Best Characterization: Edward the Sly's Lucky Spells
    Prestige Class Contest XXI Submission: Child of the Seelie Court

  17. - Top - End - #17
    Troll in the Playground
     
    NecromancerGirl

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Bristol, UK

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Quote Originally Posted by zephiros View Post
    If you would be willing to suffer my ignorance, how does the Erudite get unlimited power points? I admittedly only looked at it once before, but I thought it was the same power usage as a Psion.
    The basic abuse is to convert Mental Pinnacle to a power using the spell-to-power variant (the end result is basically a power that gives you two points for every point you spend on it). The downside is that the extra power points only last a short time.

    As for powers known, it can learn as many powers as it wants, but it's only allowed to use a certain number of different powers over the course of a single day, IIRC.
    Last edited by lesser_minion; 2010-08-17 at 07:22 PM.

  18. - Top - End - #18
    Dwarf in the Playground
     
    RedWizardGuy

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Hmm, would you mind explaining the Mental Pinnacle method? I fail to see the transfer that you mentioned there.

  19. - Top - End - #19
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    PId6's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Elemental Plane of Paper
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Quote Originally Posted by zephiros View Post
    Hmm, would you mind explaining the Mental Pinnacle method? I fail to see the transfer that you mentioned there.
    Use Spell to Power to turn it into a psionic power. As a power, Mental Pinnacle costs 11 PP to manifest. It grants you 3 PP per manifester level, so you end up with 33 extra PP minimum, spending only 11 PP in the process. You see where this is going?
    Last edited by PId6; 2010-08-17 at 07:44 PM.
    Rogue Handbook | Warmage Rebuild | Diablo's Assassin | Revised Classes
    Potpourri Creation Contest II Winner: Desert Martial Adept Substitution Levels
    Potpourri Creation Contest III Best Characterization: Edward the Sly's Lucky Spells
    Prestige Class Contest XXI Submission: Child of the Seelie Court

  20. - Top - End - #20
    Dwarf in the Playground
     
    RedWizardGuy

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Caster Chart

    Ah, thank you, yes. I wasn't clear on the spell to power costs...

    Certainly not endless, but an excellent expansion. It limits the powers, but all of those are useful.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •