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Caster Chart
Alright so, the way I see it casters are basically divided by arcane / divine casting, prepared or spontaneous, whether they get bonus spells from an attribute bonus.
I was wondering if there was a chart or other organization that shows all or most caster classes divided by these categories or similar ones.
Also I was wondering if there's an organization anywhere showing classes by spells per day / spells known.
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2010-08-17, 02:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Not that I know of, but it's not hard to make one. Here:
{table=head]Class|Arcane/Divine|Spontaneous/Prepared|Spell DCs Stat|Bonus Spells Stat|Required Stat|Max Spell Level
Adept|Divine|Prepared|Wis|Wis|Wis|5
Archivist|Divine|Prepared|Int|Wis|Int|9
Artificer|Neither|Spontaneous|None|Int|Int|6
Bard|Arcane|Spontaneous|Cha|Cha|Cha|6
Bardic Sage|Arcane|Spontaneous|Cha|Cha|Int|6
Beguiler|Arcane|Spontaneous|Int|Int|Int|9
Cleric|Divine|Prepared|Wis|Wis|Wis|9
Death Master|Arcane|Prepared|Int|Int|Int|9
Divine Bard|Divine|Spontaneous|Cha|Cha|Wis|6
Dread Necromancer|Arcane|Spontaneous|Cha|Cha|Cha|9
Druid|Divine|Prepared|Wis|Wis|Wis|9
Duskblade|Arcane|Spontaneous|Int|Int|Int|5
Favored Soul|Divine|Spontaneous|Wis|Cha|Cha|9
Healer|Divine|Prepared|Cha|Wis|Wis|9
Hexblade|Arcane|Spontaneous|Cha|Cha|Cha|4
Jester|Arcane|Spontaneous|Cha|Cha|Cha|6
Mystic Ranger|Divine|Prepared|Wis|Wis|Wis|5
Paladin|Divine|Prepared|Wis|Wis|Wis|4
Ranger|Divine|Prepared|Wis|Wis|Wis|4
Savant|Arcane/Divine|Prepared|Int/Wis|Int/Wis|Int/Wis|4
Sha'ir|Arcane/Divine|Prepared-ish|Cha|Cha|Cha|9
Shaman|Divine|Prepared|Wis|Wis|Wis|9
Shugenja|Divine|Spontaneous|Cha|Cha|Cha|9
Sohei|Divine|Prepared|Wis|Wis|Wis|4
Sorcerer|Arcane|Spontaneous|Cha|Cha|Cha|9
Spellthief|Arcane|Spontaneous|Cha|Cha|Cha|4
Spirit Shaman|Divine|Spontaneous-ish|Cha|Wis|Wis|9
Spontaneous Cleric|Divine|Spontaneous|Wis|Wis|Wis|9
Spontaneous Druid|Divine|Spontaneous|Wis|Wis|Wis|9
Urban Druid|Divine|Prepared|Cha|Cha|Cha|9
Warmage|Arcane|Spontaneous|Cha|Cha|Cha|9
Wizard|Arcane|Prepared|Int|Int|Int|9
Wu Jen|Arcane|Prepared|Int|Int|Int|9
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This includes all the base casting classes I can think of, though I might have missed some especially if they're in more obscure books. Didn't bother with PrCs, since that would take forever. I included artificer, since that was close enough to spellcasting, but I didn't include psionicists, invokers, or similar casting systems.
Edit: PrCs
{table=head]Class|Arcane/Divine|Spontaneous/Prepared|Casting Stat|Min Spell Level|Max Spell Level
Apostle of Peace|Divine|Prepared|Wis|0|9
Assassin|Arcane|Spontaneous|Int|1|4
Avenger|Arcane|Spontaneous|Int|1|4
Beloved of Valarian|Divine|Prepared|Wis|1|4
Beholder Mage|Arcane|Technically Spontaneous|Int|0|9
Blackguard|Divine|Prepared|Wis|1|4
Blighter|Divine|Prepared|Wis|0|9
Chameleon|Arcane/Divine|Prepared|Int/Wis|0|6
Champion of Gwynharwyf|Divine|Prepared|Wis|1|4
Consecrated Harrier|Divine|Prepared|Wis|1|4
Demonologist|Arcane|Spontaneous|Cha|1|4
Divine Crusader|Divine|Prepared|Cha|1|9
Emissary of Barachiel|Divine|Spontaneous|Cha|1|4
Hoardstealer|Arcane|Prepared|Int|1|4
Holy Liberator|Divine|Prepared|Wis|1|4
Hunter of the Dead|Divine|Prepared|Wis|1|4
Justice of Weald and Woe|Divine|Spontaneous|Wis|1|4
Knight of the Chalice|Divine|Prepared|Wis|1|4
Knight of the Weave|Arcane|Spontaneous|Cha|1|6
Mortal Hunter|Divine|Spontaneous|Cha|1|4
Nar Demonbinder|Arcane|Spontaneous|Cha|4|8
Nentyar Hunter|Divine|Prepared|Wis|1|5
Pious Templar|Divine|Prepared|Wis|1|4
Runescarred Berserker|Divine|Neither|Wis|1|5
Slayer of Domiel|Divine|Prepared|Wis|1|4
Sublime Chord|Arcane|Spontaneous|Cha|4|9
Suel Arcanamach|Arcane|Spontaneous|Cha|1|5
Telflammar Shadowlord|Arcane|Prepared|Int|1|3
Temple Raider of Olidammara|Divine|Prepared|Wis|1|4
Thayan Slaver|Arcane|Prepared|Int|1|4
Trapsmith|Arcane|Spontaneous|Int|1|3
Ur-Priest|Divine|Prepared|Wis|0|9
Vassal of Bahamut|Divine|Prepared|Wis|1|4
Vigilante|Arcane|Spontaneous|Cha|1|4
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Psionics:
{table=head]Class|PrC/Base|Manifesting Stat|Powers Known|Max Power Level
Ardent|Base|Wis|21|9
Divine Mind|Base|Wis|9|6
Erudite|Base|Int|Infinite|9
Lurk|Base|Int|20|6
Psion|Base|Int|36|9
Psychic Rogue|Base|Int|15|5
Psychic Warrior|Base|Wis|20|6
War Mind|PrC|Wis|6|5
Wilder|Base|Cha|11|9
Zerth Cenobite|PrC|Wis|5|4
[/table]Last edited by PId6; 2010-08-17 at 07:38 PM.
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2010-08-17, 04:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Caster Chart
Where/What is Death Master?
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Re: Caster Chart
Dragon Compendium. Osteomancer is also there. Its pretty lame though, for a caster.
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Sha'ir source, please?
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2010-08-17, 05:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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You could also add PrCs that grant their own spellcasting without too much trouble. Off the top of my head:
Divine Crusader: 9th Prepared
Suel Arcanamach: 5th Spontaneous
Sublime Chord: 9th Spontaneous
Holy Liberator: 4th Prepared
Pious Templar: 4th Prepared
Justicar of Weal and Woe: 4th? Prepared
Bloodhound: 4th Prepared
Apostle of Peace: 9th Prepared
Ur-Priest: 9th Prepared
Blackguard: 4th Prepared
Assassin: 4th Prepared
Probably a couple more.
For Psionics, there is:
Psion: 9th
Wilder: 9th
PsyWar: 6th
Ardent: 9th
Lurk: 6th
Divine Mind: 6th
PsyThief: 6th?
Warmind: 5th
I'm sure there are a few more, but thats what I remember off the top of my head.
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2010-08-17, 05:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Add Knight of the Weave to Keld's list. Spontaneous, 6th, weird list.
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2010-08-17, 06:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Alright, added the list for PrCs. There are just way too many crappy paladin knockoffs . I'm certain I've missed a few though.
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Last edited by PId6; 2010-08-17 at 06:45 PM.
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If you would be willing to suffer my ignorance, how does the Erudite get unlimited power points? I admittedly only looked at it once before, but I thought it was the same power usage as a Psion.
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Re: Caster Chart
The basic abuse is to convert Mental Pinnacle to a power using the spell-to-power variant (the end result is basically a power that gives you two points for every point you spend on it). The downside is that the extra power points only last a short time.
As for powers known, it can learn as many powers as it wants, but it's only allowed to use a certain number of different powers over the course of a single day, IIRC.Last edited by lesser_minion; 2010-08-17 at 07:22 PM.
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Hmm, would you mind explaining the Mental Pinnacle method? I fail to see the transfer that you mentioned there.
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Last edited by PId6; 2010-08-17 at 07:44 PM.
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Ah, thank you, yes. I wasn't clear on the spell to power costs...
Certainly not endless, but an excellent expansion. It limits the powers, but all of those are useful.